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"Micro" acts of every day sexism...

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GunpowderGelatine · 13/11/2019 11:43

...you know the kind of things that, if you didn't look for it you wouldn't even notice?

For example, I'm at hospital today for an outpatient appointment. I noticed that when the staff (Male and female) would call out for patients for their appointment, they would use women's full names (e.g. "Emily Dixon?") and for men they'd use their salutation ("Mr Roberts?"). Every. Single. Time.

I feel like if we look out for things like these we'd notice a lot more? Is it just me going mad or do other people have things like this happen?

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MeganChips · 14/11/2019 17:55

My boss always used to ask me to text him and let him know I got home ok when I’d been on a client site.

I pointed out he never asks the men on the team to do this and it’s sexist and infantilising and refused.

He eventually accepted it but now thinks I’m Millie Tant.

CookPassBabtridge · 14/11/2019 17:53

I sold a dryer to someone and he came to pick it up. I'd put the listing on, did all the messages, talked to him at the door etc. He got the money out and gave it to my DP instead who had not been involved at all. DP made a point of handing it to me infront of him.

My neighbour always assumes my DP has done the gardening, planting trees etc. Again my DP states that it's me who does it.

Men can be shit but luckily I have an ace partner.

MikeUniformMike · 14/11/2019 17:46

Outrageous. I would have mentioned it to the school.
I agree about the car moving type situations too. I'm shortish and slight, and am aware that the bigger you are, the more authority you seem to project.

SanFranBear · 14/11/2019 17:37

Plain old sexism...

On holiday with my brother, walking down the street
"Jesus, you really need whatever the woman version of Just For Men is as you're so grey!" Firstly, it's hair dye and secondly, fuck off - I'm growing my grey out and couldn't give a shit.

About to head to beach:
"You'll need to shave your pits".. uhm, what? When asked why I needed to, what difference my bare armpit would make to my enjoyment of the sun, it's because he thought I may have forgotten. Oh yes, can't possibly allow the woman out with BODY HAIR! I didn't point out that after being conditioned since I was about 10 that women's body hair needs to be removed as soon as it grows, am I honestly likely to have forgotten... believe it or not, it's a choice I have made! Just fuck off...

lostlondoner · 14/11/2019 17:34

@MikeUniformMike last year! Someone else asked about y a dr and nurse in nativity. Can't actually remember! Was an adapted version. Funny how all I remember is that that pissed me off!.

KingFlippyNips · 14/11/2019 17:26

If people (pretty much always men) obstruct our dropped kerb and I say something, they kick off at me/don't believe me etc. If partner (who is male) says anything to them, they're only too happy to move/oblige. Every. Single. Time.

TreestumpsAndTrampolines · 14/11/2019 16:55

I got 50 quid from Barclays after I added DP to my account and they put him first (not alphabetical), and started sending all correspondence only to him (checked advertising status - I mean official letters too).

They're doing it again though - they upgraded us to a 'premier' account (whatever that really means), and started sending him letters again, but not me.

Oh, and estate agents have always been another hotbed. DP or my Dad get the correspondence (when renting ourselves, and for our rented out house respectively) - despite explaining on many occasions that my Dad is just a local contact and has no legal responsibility for the house, and that they'll be lucky to get a reply from DP half the time so they should really just email me.

BorisJohnsonsModelBus · 14/11/2019 16:46

Older men congratulating my husband on me giving birth to a son :/

EBearhug · 14/11/2019 16:42

My bank says I can have a card without a title, but I can't have an account with no title. They didn't have a problem with me changing it to Ms, though, and just did it then and there.

Thehagonthehill · 14/11/2019 16:39

I askedy bank to take the Miss offy account name when I married(didn't change name) they said they couldn't,there had to be a title,the computer system.Tjey couldn't explain why my now exh could have his account with no title.
And the times when you have a joint account and they have to speak to the man(who always goes first,)to give permission for you to talk to them.The results t conversation is never going to be a good experience for them after that.And this happened all the time as apparently I'm better at that sort of thing.Funny how he's managing now.

Karwomannghia · 14/11/2019 16:38

Reading our instructions for a board game (Balderdash) “the dasher must read his card then take his turn” or words to that effect. I was like ah sorry I can’t be the dasher.

AnxietyDream · 14/11/2019 16:35

People who strike up a chat with my toddler daughter always assume her doll (a baby) is female, call it 'she' etc.

Even after hearing my daughter say 'he' and call it John.

BlingLoving · 14/11/2019 15:55

@JohnnyMcGrathSaysFuckOff Had the same with local garden trust. I was the main member, took out the membership, renewed the membership etc. Cancelled the membership. My phone number was the only one they had. They rang. Could not understand why I refused to put DH on the line to discuss my cancellation!? I put the phone down on him eventually.

Ditto, a Barclays bank employee once told me that now that DH and I were married, even though I hadn't changed my name I nonetheless HAD to change to Mrs as that ws the rule. I told her she was ridiculous. (have never liked barclays. And we still bank with them).

GaraMedouar · 14/11/2019 14:04

Oh my goodness, reading some of these. So annoying. I was wondering why there was a doctor and a nurse in the nativity? I liked brefugee refusing to change the handbook back from using 'she' to 'he' and password protecting the file. Genius, and so satisfying Smile

PlasticPatty · 14/11/2019 13:56

Oh, now, if we're going back forty years - I went to open a bank account and was asked if I had my husband's permission. A few years later, post-divorce, I was told by the building society manager, 'I don't mind giving you a mortgage because you'll be married again within a couple of years'. Inference being, I was young and attractive, obviously a man would come along and acquire me.

midcenturylegs · 14/11/2019 13:50

Yesterday was at a round-table event. Split in to groups to brain-storm ideas and stories. Pens handed to the women as scribes. We then rotated groups - and the women handed the pens to the other women (THAT really annoyed me!). I kind of felt I had the last laugh though as I got to ignore the dumb ideas the men were coming up with and just write down the ones which -I thought- were good.

JohnnyMcGrathSaysFuckOff · 14/11/2019 13:40

Oh, more.

I work FT (currently skiving) and DH works half-time and is a SAHD half-time. HV will call me for appts, despite repeated requests not to. School put me first as contact - I explained that I am often unable to answer my phone - the reply was 'Don't worry, we always call mum first but we can ring dad if you don't answer!'

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Again, at my GP surgery, a woman who has had a baby must be registered with the same GP as the baby. So if you are registered with a GP you like (as I was) and have a baby, if that GP doesn't currently have room on their list, you must move. This actually matters, as at that surgery they make appts by default with your 'named' GP.

So I had an older, female GP who shared my beliefs about home birth, contraception, etc. After DC, I had to move from her to a young male GP who I frankly don't want to talk to about my middle aged female health issues.

Of course, DH gets to stay with his lovely male doc who he feels comfortable talking to his prostate issues about.

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JohnnyMcGrathSaysFuckOff · 14/11/2019 13:16

So many!

I am an academic and use the title 'Dr' sometimes and 'Ms' sometimes. Not really arsed. At the time I registered with my GP, I wasn't yet married to now-DH.

GP receptionist pursed up her lips and altered my title from 'Ms' to 'Miss'. In front of me!

Buying furniture. I handed the salesman my debit card. He tried to refuse it. I am actually serious. He looked a bit shocked and sort of waved it away. I insisted (obviously, as I wanted to buy the furniture) and he took it eventually, saying to DH 'I hope you're taking her somewhere nice for lunch after this.' - !!!

Taking out National Trust membership, again before married to now-DH. NT volunteer insisted on putting him first as the 'principal member' despite the fact I was paying and it was my idea to join. When I rang up later about the membership they would only talk to 'my husband' - !

Being admitted to transitional care ward after having DTs - this was last year - MW unable to believe that DH and I are married despite having.......wait for it....... different surnames . She kept shaking her head and saying 'Quirky. Veeery quirky.' She was about 30, too!

When getting married, registry office clerk asked me if I would be changing my name. I said no. Fine. 15 minutes later they come out with our certificates with correct names on, but in an envelope marked 'Congratulations to Mr and Mrs DHName'. These are people that do this for a living!

NDN returning post to us that had been accidentally delivered to his house. 'But I nearly didn't, because I thought it must be a mistake, as it says Dr on the envelope and your husband's not a doctor, is he?'

So bloody tedious.

Brefugee · 14/11/2019 13:11

Funny how it is almost always women who are expected not to mind being excluded by language. So "Dear Sirs" is still widely used but senior male nurses are called charge nurses, not Sister.

i rewrote a departmental handbook for my company last year and changed all the "he" to "She" (and other relevant female pronouns)

Called into meeting to discuss. Apart from the fact that 70% of the staff are women, I said "but it includes men too, don't feel put out by that"

Was "ordered" to change them all to "he" - and literally "it means everyone, you don't have to feel put out."

So i refused and password protected the file. None of the men wanted to make the new handbook so finally it was printed like that. And every man who got a copy received an apology that they were being excluded...

MikeUniformMike · 14/11/2019 13:01

Am I in some sort of timewarp?
My parents were farmers as were the parents of friends.
My mother and friends' mothers were farmers. There were farmer's wives but they tended to be much older. (I'm 50)

I would complain to the school.

I hate the terms lady doctor and male nurse.

BlingLoving · 14/11/2019 12:56

@mikeuniformmike - we had farmers and farmers wives....

MikeUniformMike · 14/11/2019 12:44

lostlondoner, when was the Nativity? That is shocking.

lostlondoner · 14/11/2019 12:30

School nativity - boy as the doctor. Girl as the nurse

lostlondoner · 14/11/2019 12:30

Estate agents ask my husband what he does for work but Ignore me. Three times that's happened.

lostlondoner · 14/11/2019 12:29

Estate agents ask my husband what he does for work but Ignore me. Three times that's happened.

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