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"Micro" acts of every day sexism...

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GunpowderGelatine · 13/11/2019 11:43

...you know the kind of things that, if you didn't look for it you wouldn't even notice?

For example, I'm at hospital today for an outpatient appointment. I noticed that when the staff (Male and female) would call out for patients for their appointment, they would use women's full names (e.g. "Emily Dixon?") and for men they'd use their salutation ("Mr Roberts?"). Every. Single. Time.

I feel like if we look out for things like these we'd notice a lot more? Is it just me going mad or do other people have things like this happen?

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NonnyMouse1337 · 13/11/2019 13:44

I pay more than 5 times the sum my husband does for hair cutting. We both have short hair.

Do you both go to the same place or does he go to the barbers and you go to a hairdresser?
I think women with short hair are better served going to a barber. Hairdressers are always so pointlessly expensive, but then I suppose they have to cover the cost of things like sinks to wash hair in and various hair products and shampoo.

HorseWithNoFucksToGive · 13/11/2019 13:42

Is it awful that I never notice these things and that even pointed out, I can't get aggrieved about it!

I don't think it's awful, just a bit sad.

Hoppinggreen · 13/11/2019 13:38

I’m a Relocation agent. Last week I was working with an American couple. She is a very high earning, CEO of a major company, he is a SAHD. Every Estate agent / school / anyone else we dealt with asked HIM if the relocation was due to HIS job
After a while she turned to me and said “this is pissing you off too isn’t it?” Yes, it certainly was!

Jaxhog · 13/11/2019 13:34

Just be glad it isn't the 70s, when I had to get DH's signature on my tax return!

Jaxhog · 13/11/2019 13:31

When I bought my new car, the salesman didn't want to give the bunch of flowers to my husband! Clearly a gift for the 'little woman' only.

I pay more than 5 times the sum my husband does for hair cutting. We both have short hair.

And, at technical forums (I'm in IT), many men assume I'm something to do with the catering. I'm an older woman so get micro ageism too.

LivingDeadGirlUK · 13/11/2019 13:30

When it comes to work, have a technical job in a male dominated industry. I have the below happen on a weekly basis.

  1. Assumed to be PA/receptionist making appointment for someone else 'and who will be attending the meeting?' etc.
  2. Assumed non technical level of understanding when speaking to manufacturers or specialists.
  3. Assumed to be less senior than male colleagues, questions directed to them.
  4. Assumed to be in the wrong place ie shouted at when entering site along the lines of 'Oi where do you think your going?!'

Usually its just a fleeting misunderstanding but it still happens very regularly. Also find most quotes are addressed to 'Dear Sirs', even when being sent from a rep who is also a woman!

MadamBatty · 13/11/2019 13:28

Went into a sofa shop with my brother. The saleswoman said ‘how much are you letting her spend today!’ He laughed

There’s an ad on an Irish language station. An elderly lady & a young man sitting outside a pub chatting. A waiter brings out a coffee & a pint of Guinness. Gives the coffee to the woman & Guinness to the man. They swop

SayOohLaLa · 13/11/2019 13:24

We have a supplier at work. When you email their generic help email, you get an automated message back starting "dear sirs". Annoys me every time as the sector we work in there's broadly a 50/50 split of men and women so the person emailing is not particularly likely to be a bloke.

Redshoeblueshoe · 13/11/2019 13:19

Another Guinness drinker here, my pint is always passed to my DH

LivingDeadGirlUK · 13/11/2019 13:17

Actually you have just reminded me of a works Christmas do years ago, whole company type thing where they hired out a night club. A bloke I vaguely recognised as a senior member of another team pushed in front of me at the bar and when I called him out on it said 'well they will spend ages preparing your cocktail and I just want a beer'. Just given myself the rage remembering that :D

LivingDeadGirlUK · 13/11/2019 13:15

Quite often had the drink one where my pint is passed to my partner and I am presented with the fancy cocktail.

Not noticed the bill thing, I'm sure its usually placed on the table between the two of us, rather than handed over.

The one time I ordered a large breakfast and my partner just had a small they did get this wrong but tbf we eat in there quite often and he usually does have a large breakfast.

KaptenKrusty · 13/11/2019 13:05

The drinks thing is always funny - I ordered a whisky with ice and my Husband and his friend ordered fancier cocktails (Daquiri's or something like that) they obs gave me the pink one and the whisky was for a man!! there was confusion over who the second pink drink was for!! hahaha

Another one is assuming the man will pay!! eeep :(

NonnyMouse1337 · 13/11/2019 12:59

I find staff in restaurants always hand the bill to the man I'm with.

I've had staff take my credit card or cash from me... And after the transaction hand back the card or change to the man with me. Shock

Makes me laugh more than annoyed even though it's thoughtless sexism. People don't mean harm. It's just things we do without thinking because humans learn usually by unthinkingly copying others around them.

I'm dark skinned and it makes me giggle when white people are surprised that brown people get tan lines too. I don't vew it as racism or get offended. It's not something they have ever had to think about before.

I did get really angry though when I was getting a divorce and the clerk couldn't understand why I hadn't filled in my married name... And I kept telling him that I never changed my name when I married. My maiden name is my married name. And he looked thoroughly confused and insisted I correct what I had written. I was very close to losing my shit and (ex) husband was there and had to step in lol.

ArnoldWhatshisknickers · 13/11/2019 12:58

Actually I do notice one thing but it does that make me laugh - bar people always give my Guinness to my husband and his girly Bud Light to me. Every single time!

That's an interesting one. My partner doesn't drink and bar staff never accidently give me his coke and him my pint of larger.

I wonder if this is related to assumptions about who does the driving therefore who can't drink alcohol?

(in our case they'd be right, I drink, he drives, them's the rules, unless it's a 400 mile drive to London when I do the bulk)

mumofbun · 13/11/2019 12:56

I once booked a holiday on line and put Dr as my title. When the confirmation email came through it had changed it to Mr. I had to enquire about it as i was worried it would mean i couldn't get on the plane or something and they changed it but was pretty annoyed. In another case i was making a booking over the phone and the woman asked me if it was mrs or miss...

WatchingTheMoon · 13/11/2019 12:50

I WISH I didn't notice but here I am every day getting wound up by the millions of things I see happening around me.

My latest one is people saying that if I have a baby girl (I'm pregnant), it will be great cos we can have girly days out and get our nails done.

If I can muster the energy to even cut my nails, I consider it top quality grooming these days but no, as I am a woman, I must be longing for a daughter so we can go and make ourselves look attractive to men.

RetreatingWeasels · 13/11/2019 12:49

Many years ago DH went to buy a new vacuum cleaner and the salesman kept trying to talk to me. I had only gone along for the ride and was less than interested in the cleaner.

Sad that it's still going on.

Fishcakey · 13/11/2019 12:47

Actually I do notice one thing but it does that make me laugh - bar people always give my Guinness to my husband and his girly Bud Light to me. Every single time!

NonnyMouse1337 · 13/11/2019 12:47

Wtf... That's proper sexism VictoriaSpongeBob Shock

Fishcakey · 13/11/2019 12:46

Is it awful that I never notice these things and that even pointed out, I can't get aggrieved about it!

BoogieFeet · 13/11/2019 12:44

Ah yes, my veggie husband and I often have to swap the plates found as he is given the manly steak/burger and me the veggie option :)

Booked a holiday online recently and paid with my credit card, specified myself as lead passenger and the contact for the holiday. Still listed below my husband when I login to view holiday details.

VictoriaSpongeBob · 13/11/2019 12:38

At a previous job i was always asked to make guests drinks, clear food from meetings I wasn't in and and on one occasion Hoover the reception before a client arrived. It wasn't my job I work in HR and just happened to be the only woman who worked there.

elQuintoConyo · 13/11/2019 12:37

Giving me the salad and my husband the steak - waitress or waiter, doesn't matter. Every. Single. Time.

EmpressLesbianInChair · 13/11/2019 12:35
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MadamBatty · 13/11/2019 12:35

Empress any man who does that gets me stepping back on his foot hard & a I didn’t see you there smile

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