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Professional Social Work (PSW) magazine prints letter from Sarah Phillimore

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exwhyzed · 12/11/2019 13:41

novembers issue.

There are couple of other letters too on the same subject.

I'm really surprised (and glad) they have printed this point of view. I nearly wrote in myself about the article in the October issue.

Certainly in my experience in an LD and Autism team as a social worker is that we are seeing more of it regarding young women with autism, and that generally the social workers (mainly women, some possibly mners) is to approach it with a watchful/waiting stance rather than fully affirming. No one is outwardly gender critical, because that would probably get you fired.

PSW printing this I think opens the door with managers who panic about the issue.

Professional Social Work (PSW) magazine prints letter from Sarah Phillimore
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Languishingfemale · 14/03/2020 20:01

Long overdue. And congratulations to Sarah & Maggie for pursuing this. Ever since the Child J case that Melroses references upthread, too many social workers (and countless other organisations) have abandoned safeguarding children in favour of supporting an adult male led ideology. Unforgivable.

CodenameVillanelle · 14/03/2020 18:57

Fantastic!

exwhyzed · 14/03/2020 18:52

The conversation continues in PSW in February and March.

I'm very surprised about the amount of column inches they are giving it, they must be receiving a high volume of correspondence about it.

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JacobReesClunge · 01/12/2019 09:01

Why on earth would someone who isn't disabled or neurodiverse (because you'd have said so if you were) think anyone should listen to their opinion on the matter? I not only work with a lot of black people but have some amongst my family members and dearest friends: as a white person I'm still not, in any way shape or form, entitled to weigh in on a black person using the n word! Stay in your lane.

BarbaraStrozzi · 01/12/2019 08:58

Apple, do Google the Streisand effect. Your habit of bumping threads about Spero because you appear to have a personal grudge against her really isn't achieving what you think it's achieving.

exwhyzed · 01/12/2019 08:52

I work in the field of adults with learning disabilities and other seriously disabling conditions

As do I.

The thread you screenshot is a discussion between Sarah and someone called FrogAutistic referring to the Charlie Gard case and 'Charlie's Army' and wondering where all the armies of people are campaigning for the ongoing high levels of care and good quality of lives for the severely disabled adults that babies like Charlie Gard become if they survive.

As you will know working in the sector, severely disabled adults often don't get much quality of life. There's little money left for nice things after basic care has been paid for. What kind of life were people actually save for Charlie?

Both people in the conversation consider themselves to have a disability. They understand the crap deal many disabled people get from society. 'Welcome crippled friend' was a joke between two people on that understanding.

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Qcng · 01/12/2019 08:12

Transgender Trend are doing fantastic work on this issue.

BernardBlacksWineIceLolly · 01/12/2019 07:57

I think it's role play month or something. all the method actors want to come here at the moment
it's getting a bit trying

Themyscira · 01/12/2019 07:46

'Identifying' as autistic?

Oops, your queer theory is showing.

TirisfalPumpkin · 01/12/2019 07:20

I’m also doubtful Apple works with autistic people, as she would know that the idea of ‘identifying as autistic’ is offensive. My disability is not an identity.

GCAcademic · 01/12/2019 06:33

I work in the field of adults with learning disabilities and other seriously disabling conditions.

Of course you do, dear.

DickKerrLadies · 01/12/2019 05:53

It's funny really, one of the reasons I started sticking around on MN more were threads where Spero was subject to various forms of attack.

It was when I realised that MN is much bigger than 'just' a parenting forum with the usual online arguments.

Anyway, it is illuminating to see not only who certain people are trying to silence, but the ways in which they do it.

ElluesPichulobu · 01/12/2019 05:41

I'm not defending her. no defense is necessary. I am explaining to you that you are making yourself look a bit silly. the screenshots clearly and obviously (to anyone with any sense) show two adults who are living with disabilities discussing as equals (and in a sympathetic and friendly manner) the experience of being an adult with a disability in a society that perceives people with disabilities negatively. that you are trying to use this exchange to attack Spero really makes you look very foolish, so I am merely advising you to stop for your own sake.

XXMansplainShieldActive · 01/12/2019 00:22

That is an excellent and succinct letter, so glad to see it published.

Times are changing.

DailyApple · 30/11/2019 23:52

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midcenturylegs · 29/11/2019 08:10

Sigh. Here's the context;

Professional Social Work (PSW) magazine prints letter from Sarah Phillimore
teawamutu · 29/11/2019 07:58

I've just read a thoughtful exchange on the lack of care for disabled adults.

I don't have enough personal knowledge of adult disability, or Spero, to say if context offers any different perspectives - but from everything I've seen from her, it'll be coming from a principled and compassionate place.

Cuntysnark · 29/11/2019 07:47

Well done Sarah from me too.

ElluesPichulobu · 29/11/2019 07:46

@DailyApple you just did the equivalent of calling a black man 'racist' because he used the word nigga in conversation with another black man. not a good look.

AnyFucker · 29/11/2019 07:43

Daily you don't understand irony, do you ?

HandsOffMyRights · 29/11/2019 07:40

Pursue even. Need more coffee!

HandsOffMyRights · 29/11/2019 07:37

Well done to Sarah for persuing this, along with the other professionals who are drawing attention to this.

Daily clutching at straws. You must be really worried about the sunlight on this. Sarah, however, believes in protecting vulnerable children and families.

KatvonHostileExtremist · 29/11/2019 07:18

daily that's possibly the crappest "gotcha" I've ever seen. Grin
1/10 must try harder

Well done Spero for that letter. Pulllllllllllllllllllllll

exwhyzed · 29/11/2019 03:55

DailyApple Grin Confused

That link really doesn't say what you seem to think it does.

Someone must be really scraping the barrel to try and dig that up as some kind of wrong doing.

Why?

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Oncewasblueandyellowtwo · 29/11/2019 00:01

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