Marks and Spencer have fallen, part III; we’re gonna need a bigger boat

A quick question if Labour get in and keep sex segregated places like it says in the equality act does that mean that M&S etc are going to change back?
( I know officially they shouldn't be getting rid of them due to the equality act but thats stopping no one)

I did ❤️ M&S. They have trampled all over my brand loyalty. Stupid, stupid move.

I agree. focus on M&S. You eat an elephant one bite at a time. And that's the place I would previously have spent the most money.

I am boycotting M&S as a bare minimum. I spend more there than anywhere else I shop.

I use a women only FB group for advice and then buy online.

Fyi rigby and peller are mixed sex too.

Boycotting Ocado saved me quite a bit of money..boycotting M&S is going to save me a fortune. I know it’s not everyone’s cup of tea but I’d always go in if I went to town to have a browse/pick up some ready meals, and this time of year to get my Xmas cards/paper and try the Xmas sandwiches. It was the main go to store for the whole family for clothes but not anymore.

Have cancelled my sparks card and unsubscribed from the emails. Still being sent emails so I unsubscribe from each one and put ‘mixed sex changing rooms’ as my reason.

Ooh that’s a point. Maybe we should be getting our partners or family members to send emails. Especially if they are male. I hate to say that but the demographic sending emails thus far seem to be the second sex.

It isn’t possible to boycott each shop. Some time back it was discussed and agreed buy a few posters that M&S be the shop to be boycotted. I know it’s not ideal but targeting one shop will have more impact than diluting the cause.

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John Lewis is causing me consternation too but I've withdrawn from M&S completely and it has been my store of choice for thirty years. If M&S can be persuaded to see sense, that will be the time to turn our attention to other woke outlets.

Having received a stock email reply to my complaint I read that they may be registering email addresses and not engaging again with follow ups. So I sent my response via my different email, got the acknowledgement and will let you know if I get a further reply.

By not buy. 😂 we aren’t supposed to buy....

How can we boycott each shop?
I agree. It isn’t possible to boycott each shop. Some time back it was discussed and agreed buy a few posters that M&S be the shop to be boycotted. I know it’s not ideal but targeting one shop will have more impact than diluting the cause.

I'm concerned about hidden cameras if males are allowed in bravissimo. The staff leave you for a long time, plenty for someone nefarious to set one up.

can't see any way to tackle it beyond disruption, stickering, using the men's, complaining tangibly about doors/curtains/behaviour etc, all the ideas shared here etc
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I would imagine that they've all been discreetly dealing with male bra fitting for years. However these recent public welcome mats are likely to make it much more prevalent. Maybe they think the potential of increased sales is worth it? They might have to be more concerned about the male who turns up for his weekly turn on but doesn't buy or the incel getting a thrill about obliging a female to touch him. In the end the staff will have to decide if they're happy with this, I suppose, and vote with their feet if not.

I guess the problem with Bravissimo is they don’t have any male changing rooms. The changing rooms should be single sex but I am not sure that can extend to the whole shop or who can purchase items for themselves. These shops then need a separate mixed sex changing room. You still have the problem of men getting kicks from requiring female staff to fit them though.

I’m not surprised but the policy will vary so much on the shop. We know Bravissimo have smaller rooms and lots of staff and will easily spot and react to any behaviour. But ye old marks with maybe one member of staff who may or not been around, totally different (no pun indeed) ball game.

These policies are bloody awful for their staff too, who presumably didn't sign up with the understanding that they were to be expected to fit bras to male individuals who in many cases will be aroused by the process.

This is one of the most disturbing aspects imo. Obliging their staff to participate in a male sexual fetish. Not that far removed from the Yaniv case, I'd say.

I think perhaps that men may rise up - when women everywhere have the saggiest bosoms known in Christendom because they can’t get bras fitted safely anymore.

Only then will things change. And Of course it will be on the word of men.

I buy all my bras from Poland, but swimwear from Bravissimo.
What are they all afraid of, surely single sex is proportionate in this instance ?

Ms Pankhurst and your brave sisters?

Sorry. It looks as though your achievements were but temporary.

These policies are bloody awful for their staff too, who presumably didn't sign up with the understanding that they were to be expected to fit bras to male individuals who in many cases will be aroused by the process. Is it a case of a few woke idiots at HQ is all it takes to impose an idiotic policy on the stores?

I've emailed rigby and peller. Will report back.

How can we boycott when it's every shop?

I wonder if technology means we’ll soon be able have virtual replications of ourselves online so we don’t need to go into stores to fit everything on anyway?
Maybe they’re all waiting for the backlash from women being perved on before they take any action- too cowardly to actually stand up for women’s rights.

Oh no, I'm devastated about bravissimo. What about rigby and pillar?