Marks and Spencer have fallen, part III; we’re gonna need a bigger boat

I'm up for it Ada

Is there any interest in a massed takeover of the men's changing rooms? One Saturday afternoon before Christmas perhaps. I'd be happy to be "comfortable" in there for quite a while. I'd probably write my Christmas cards and make a few shuffling trying-on-clothes noises from time to time. Unfortunately the first lot of clothes wouldn't fit so I'd have to try another lot, and then a third batch.... If enough people did that it could become quite annoying for the shop 😀

As an aside, if we are boycotting M&S, can we still use the toilets? My local ones are cleaner and nicer than the nearby alternatives.

I'd be prepared to go in the men's changing rooms.
Men would complain.
Men would get listened to.
And that's what pisses me off the most

The very first conversation I had with DH on trans issues was about changing rooms - I was framing it around our DD but he fixated on how uncomfortable he would be with a trans man in his changing rooms. Not that he tries clothes on at M&S but I imagine he'll combust when/if he encounters unisex toilets.

I'd be prepared to go in the men's changing rooms.
Men would complain.
Men would get listened to.
And that's what pisses me off the most

Anyway - my accounts are all now cancelled with them and even if they take no notice I at least have the satisfaction of no longer supporting a company that displays such open contempt for their women customers.

Without being cynical Akire - it is very evident that men get a different response from M & S. Women are not demanding to share changing rooms with men - it is men making those demands and M & S promptly acquiesced to them. Quite unbelievable but as they've doubled down on this, yet another example of male privilege and power.

What if “someone’s husband” emails in saying they are concerned. Will a man get a different response?

That's an idea, although I'd have to buy the knickers which would mean spending money there.

You could hire your chopped up card down an unfinished gusset @AdaFromYorkshire. He would find it quicker.

I used to be on Mumsnet years ago and have just re-registered because I am so incensed by the rights of women and girls being eroded all the time.

I present as a rather dowdy middle-aged to elderly woman. Certainly not the sort to select a few expensive M&S garments, then ask at Customer Services for the woman only fitting rooms. And certainly not the sort to drop several hundreds of pounds of clothes on the floor and walk out when told that I may have to share with a penis person. Deary me, surely not.

Not sure of my next move although I like the idea of ordering online and returning it all with a note. I may look dowdy in my well worn coat, but I could manage to spend £1000 or so, given that good old M&S will return it.

I think I'll do a spot of Archie Norman bothering too. Perhaps he'd like the chopped up remains of my Sparks card in a jiffy bag with an acerbic note.

Doesn't our old mate Pippa Bunce change multiple times a week?

^^ Ah yes, the lovely Mx Pip Bunce. 🤢

I mean I know it is possible you may change but not from week to week!

Ha you would think. You can change daily, apparently. Wear a wig, collect women's awards, be called brave and stunning. www.thetimes.co.uk/article/anger-over-women-s-business-honour-for-cross-dressing-banker-h0gv3l7nw

On the back of this I have rediscovered Iceland, Aldi, local independent shops and cafes for lunches and my local auction house for excellent quality cheap furniture.

It’s quite refreshing really.

Its been an eye opener. I had no idea how often I just popped into an M&S food until I decided I would not. So no M&S sandwich for my train journey last weekend, no picking up a quick supper as I passed through Victoria station on my way home in Thursday and a decision not to stop at a large M&S food with a very convenient car park nor at a Motorway service station next week when I go down to the south coast (There are at least 5 M&S Food shops, probably more, within 20 minutes walk of my house...lots of popping in opportunities.)

I am spending a lot less, I had not realised how these small purchases added up. Plus cooking more. Better still there is less plastic in the bin.

And I have more money to contribute to Crowd Justice fundraisers. Decent results for Maya and Harry next week and it will be all win. (And I might also lose some weight. I assume the calories add up as well.)

I’m at Labour Party member I’ve had a letter a week from them since the election was announced. They do make a rather big deal of gender identity. On every form it has boxes for Gender, Male, female, Non binary and other. Though I did get one yesterday to sell raffle tickets and there wasn’t a lot of room so it had reduced it down to Male female and other box.

I’m not sure why they keep asking? By all means they know they am writing to party members so they already know name address date of birth ethnicity etc. By all means ask when you join if they keep track but it’s the constantly asking that is bizarre .

I mean I know it is possible you may change but not from week to week! I am
They could equal ask if you have a low paid job on UC, struggle to pay the bills and other “policy defining issues”. No wonder gender is taking a disproportionate space in policy list.

I know Labour are just as anti women as all the other parties so I have decided on other issues. Since there is no party that puts women first. Now wouldn’t that be a Alien concept.

Loving Good King Wankeslas!

But in other news, besides your gender, you can also choose your race now. I always wanted to be Asian..
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@Jeanhatchet

Has commented on this thread. I presume it is the Jean. Just @ you Jean because or above ^^.

@NumbersStation - I can't post them on soc med under my own name either. Also economic reasons. I hate being a coward. But can you get them to Jean Hatchett on Twitter? She respected my privacy. I sent her the M&S pervert reviews and that's now in the Sun as well. If you can't I think I might set up a second Twitter.

It's brilliant work. Mockery is the best way to kill off stupidity.

Great work @NumbersStation! Especially Queen Wenceslas

S&M I like that one!

Did not visit Mark's Suspenders this weekend, even though I need new jeans, a jumper, and really like some of their food
Women and girls' safety, privacy and dignity comes first

Women's Rights Matter.

Sold

Numbers we will pay you with and
Carry on writing

Oh come all ye faithful
Menfolk of the high street...

Oh. You are already. No point in finishing this one