Times article - Aimee Challenor suspended

As far as I’m aware, Nathaniel Knight has NOT claimed his Twitter account was hacked or that the tweets weren't his. That's Aimee speaking.

Put the address of Nathaniel’s Fur Affinity account (which he’s been scrubbing) into the search field on www.archive.org.

www.furaffinity.net/user/kharonalpua/

Look at his account as it was on 1st May 2015.

There it is in black-and-white.

Nathaniel’s stories are catalogued under his “Gallery” tab, and someone commenting on the, “Wolf's Sexual Adventure: 01 - Scyther Strikes”, story even calls him out for using a 10-year-old character.

I’d recommend the Liberal Democrats take a long close look at Nathaniel’s response to that comment, it’s quite revealing.

My SNP MP has had his face all over tv regarding Brexity stuff recently, but didn't respond to any queries i sent him about the UK consultation last year. I might try getting in touch again.

Everyone in the relevant constituencies should vote for Joanna Cherry and Joan MacFarlane They are a force for women.

Plus, anyone else who knows they have a GC MP/candidate - vote for them!

One would hope the SNP wouldn't be silly enough to actually think that GE votes for them will automatically translate into an endorsement for a referendum. Of course they have to say that publicly to keep Indy supporters hopeful and happy. There's no reason to stop a significant chunk of those who might vote SNP at the GE to vote No in any Indy referendum.

I support Scottish independence but depending on the context, I tend to vote tactically. I agree that the positions of all the political parties at the moment on women's rights is just dire. I think I will vote SNP because at least some of them have been speaking out against trans ideology. I'm sure the TRAs would love to see them gone and replaced with more compliant MPs.

Now will not be voting LibDem

Also with the Lib Dems party members can sign up to policy groups and help decide policy directly. So for people with the time that could be a route to affect change.

Or a good reason to back away from a party that prone to entryism?

If someone HAD hacked his account, why didn't he delete the posts as soon as he got control back? That's what most people would have done. Or if he couldn't get it back, he could have reported the posts to Twitter.

Just to be clear: was Aimee kicked out, suspended, or have they left voluntarily?

Well I think there is a reason TRA activists aren't keen on gender critical women joining their parties. That is because if enough of us signed up and got organised we could influence policy.

Also with the Lib Dems party members can sign up to policy groups and help decide policy directly. So for people with the time that could be a route to affect change.

It was firmly tongue-in-cheek, Arran. Of course this guy knows what he's doing. There was a scandal about this stuff a year ago, which he must have known about, but he didn't come out with the hacking excuse then. It's only now, when his marriage to the fragrant Aimee (British political joke about disgraced MP and member of the House of Lords Jeffrey Archer, for those of our twitter monitors who are hard of thinking - waves cheerfully) is getting closer and hence presumably his British citizenship application, together with Aimee's almost burgeoning but now cruelly curtailed political career (see yesterday's Times) that he's come out with the "hacked account" excuse.

I do hope Aimee gets some decent, supportive therapy. To have a father who is a paedophile and child rapist (and into adult baby stuff) then to seek out a husband-to-be who fantasizes about exactly the same stuff... Well, that's the mark of someone severely traumatised by their childhood, I would say (and something I think many of us have seen played out on the Relationships Boards here). Aimee, LTB and set your standards higher.

Yes, funny that.

The "oops someone hacked my account" excuse is getting a bit old.

Particularly when some people have a past with Anon and emphasise their cyber security and hacking skills.

Much as it pains me to say this, I think on self ID Boris is our best hope. Or SNP if you're in Scotland

You don't have to vote for anyone. You could join the club that wants to vote, but will have to resort, instead, to spoiling their ballot.

My opinion is that everyone should join the party that more or less fits their overall political views and then work at changing it from the inside to better represent women's rights. Because none of them seem to be great at that

i heard the exact same from a long time Labour party activist a few days ago.......she knew she was at odds with the party line on gender politics ( & clearly afraid to speak out openly about it), but was staying out of habit and long term membership. If even long term, and prominent, members cannot speak out and have an impact on the direction of travel, then can't see what hope a newbie will have.

You'll most likely find yourself having to watch what what you say, and who you say it to.

Also, once you're in and they have your money they can choose to read it as having your support.

I can do that for some issues, but on something as fundamental as this I am no longer prepared to hold my nose.

I admire your optimism Grapefruit but thousands of women have been trying to change parties from the inside and have got nowhere. If it was that easy this would all be fixed and women would be listened to.

I joined the Lib Dems recently and there was a question on the membership form with, Which Gender do you identify with?

I think I wrote, Don't want to answer and then a small essay in the comments about the application process to say that they should just be asking which sex people are and can have another question later to ask if people are transgender. I also said that I had no gender identity. I was just biologically female.

Anyway no one blocked me from joining or refused my cash.

My opinion is that everyone should join the party that more or less fits their overall political views and then work at changing it from the inside to better represent women's rights. Because none of them seem to be great at that.

I have actually met AC and in real life she is extremely odd, in a skin crawling, wouldn't leave your children with them type of way.
She has been involved the the local People's Vote rally's but seems to held at arms length by the local Lib Dem's who seem like decent enough folk.
Hopefully she get some help with the car crash that is her life.

At least there are a few dissenting voices in the SNP I suppose...

I don't want to not vote, bit none are really appealing at all. :(

But yes, I am probably going to vote SNP too because there has been debate and there still will be debate. I am not voting LibDem.

The Scottish government have not shelved their plans on self-ID, they plan to produce a draft bill by the end of the year and consult on it

www2.gov.scot/Topics/Justice/law/17867/gender-recognition-review

I could not find the SNP manifesto on their website but the article about the GE campaign does not mention it. There is an article by Ian Blackford which is slightly woolly in so far as it is about gender which makes it difficult to argue on the grounds of sex - I do not have a problem at all with people who do not fit their sex-related gender presentation, for example, and of course no-one should face discrimination. But once you pick apart that accepting trans people for who they are means that people with intact male genitalia will be legally female much more easily, and the implications for same sex female spaces and protections, then it becomes more difficult. How do you then legislate for and protect the group of people who suffer sex-based discrimination because they are the ones who are penetrable and impregnatable, who suffer greater levels of abuse and poverty because of this? You have to resort to dehumanising language to explain the group of people you mean, when formally the word ‘woman’ would have sufficed.

In terms of policies to address female inequalities, these relate to domestic abuse legislation (which is not making its way into private family law actions, where the law allows coercive control to be perpetuated even after separation) and child care policies, as far as I can see.

None of which relates to Aimee Chanellor of course.

I'm actually going to have to vote SNP for the first time. Which I'm not pleased about, with Sturgeon blaring on about how all these votes for the SNP means we need another Scottish referendum. (Like we need something else divisive to piss money away on )

But I'm not voting liberal democrat with this shit show. Never voted Tory. Pointless voting labor in Scotland now, even if you didn't think they were crap too.

What the Feck is wrong with people? :(

I actually can't believe the lib Dems could make themselves look worse by putting this in writing.

Agree that ditching Challenor is just attempted damage control.

If the boyfriend has such fantasies why would he talk about them on twitter?

There are people who live in a bubble.

Before the internet, it was way more difficult to find people that shared your perversions. Now there are websites for everything and this huge push to pretend every fetish imaginable is so normal that you should be able to be “out and proud” about it.

I think if that’s your world and you live more or less online, it’s easy to misjudge how your actions will be seen by the general public.