What makes a woman a woman?

Very soon, tho, we'll have increasing numbers of young trans people who have been socialised as the opposite sex for most of their childhood and who have not been able to mature properly thanks to medical treatment.

Womanhood has both sociological and physiological elements.

The question was what makes a woman. There are sociological aspects to our lives, but they only apply to the biological group women. Men can't ever have "womanhood".

A vagina. (Not including those who are Hermaphrodite)

Biology. Anything else is self expression/personality/outward appearance but biology makes up the sex we are. Nothing else.

This

What Velveteenfruitbowl said, to the power of a trillion.

It is 100 percent biology

A woman is an adult human female

Whether you like dresses or football or think-you-think-like-a-woman-thinks is not relevant

With humans , as with most mammals , sorting the males from the females is generally pretty straightforward (exceptions exist for chromosomal abnormalities)

I think it's as simple as black and white part from the very tiny minority who have XXY chromosomes

You do know XXY isn’t the only sex chromosome/DSD?

But yes. To be slightly more specific, XX plus female anatomy = female, XY + male anatomy =male.

DSD are completely separate to the trans debate. It is ambiguous biology, and nothing to do with brain waves or gender. Caster Semenya for example is not transgender, and shouldn’t be included in the trans athlete debate.

'Klinefelter syndrome (XXY) is one of the most common chromosomal disorders, occurring in one to two per 1,000 live male births'
X and Y chromosome disorders don't change whether someone is male or female of course; if you have a Y then you are generally considered male. But just saying.
(My daughter has XXX and is therefore a super female )

It a combination of biology and socialisation. Girls and women are socialised into certain behaviours and into accepting certain discriminatory behaviour because of their biological differences to men (in particular their ability to carry and birth children, their hormonal patterns and, their sexual vulnerability). A woman might feel certain ways or do certain things because of the way she’s been treated and her experiences. This is not unimportant at all, but that only happens because of biology. Womanhood has both sociological and physiological elements. To ignore the former is reductive, the ignore the latter is wilful ignorance.

I wonder if your husband thinks that all transwomen have had "the op".
It's a common misconception. Less than 5% of TW have "the op" and about 25% have fake breasts/facial reconstruction.
The vast majority are completely unadulterated males.
That tends to wake the men up.

Ask your husband,
What "brain waves" make a male bodied person not male?

When a male bodied person has testes, can get an erection, can impregnate a woman perfectly naturally, but they have "special womanly brain waves", how exactly are they anything like a woman?

What brain waves do women have that make us all the same?

Biology.

The playing princesses/drinking beer/wine in bath crap is harmful gender stereotyping.

Girls can drink beer, join the army, and become astronauts and engineers too!

Boys can be fashion designers, nurses and teachers too!

A woman is an adult female.

Being a biological female. Simple as that.

An adult human female to be specific.

A woman is a human born female (of the sex class that produces large, immobile gametes) who has grown to adulthood.

Pretty bloody simple.

I love peach yogurt on this subject.

But it’s simple innit - chromosomes.

Unfortunatly, one could argue that means you identify as a woman. ( rubbish, but I have seen a lot of rubbish spouted)

Women have XX chromosomes and men have XY.

I think it's as simple as black and white part from the very tiny minority who have XXY chromosomes.

I've just had a hysterectomy. I read on Twitter last week that a woman was having her uterus removed to "make her a man".
What a pile of bollocks (or lack thereof). I'm no less a woman because I've had a hysterectomy.

I think man and woman refer to the sex class we belong to. Whatever that means in terms of biology, and I'd include things like hormones or biological elements of behaviour, whatever. We don't even need to define them o talk about this, if it's mainly biological and about your sex class, it's part of being a woman.

Obviously some things are not about what makes an individual a woman, you can be sex female and 6'3. But we'd still say that women as a group are typically smaller than men.

Unlike some here I think gender is an inevitable result of having two sex classes in a social species with culture and politics, and so also some sense of what is masculine or feminine may go along with that almost inevitably. But that isn't what makes you a man or woman, that's an ass-backward analysis.

Why do I feel so scared to say anything these days

To me a woman has a vagina and a man has a penis.

Being an adult female of the human species. Just that.

Everything else is personality, preferences or plain old stereotypes.

From Merriam Webster:

www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/female

female, adjective

fe·male | \ ˈfē-ˌmāl


Definition of female

(Entry 1 of 2)
1a(1) : of, relating to, or being the sex that typically has the capacity to bear young or produce eggs In a field of milkweed, I watched a female monarch butterfly deposit a single egg on the underside of a leaf.— Tom Tyning A few months later, she became the highest paid female performer on the Great White Way.— Susannah McCorkle
(2) : having or producing only pistils or pistillate flowers a female holly female inflorescences
b : made up of usually adult members of the female sex : consisting of females the female workforce
c : characteristic of girls, women, or the female sex : exhibiting femaleness composed for female voices

Adult human female = woman. Just woman, and certainly not cis.
And our lived experience confirms it.
In my view.

Female biology = woman
Male biology = man
No discussion needed

Yes, all the crap we're hearing about this now is based on stereotypes.