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To think that all of these proposed policies are pointless?

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Dyrne · 08/11/2019 10:07

General Election 2019: Labour promises year of maternity pay www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-2019-50338831

Was reading this article where labour are crowing about how many lovely policies they are proposing around Maternity Pay, Sexual harassment, discrimination etc; and was just thinking that all of that is completely pointless?

If anyone can identify as a woman; then you’re not protecting female spaces. If a self declared man can be a mother, then suddenly it’s not sex discrimination to be fired for having a baby, because men can be mothers too.

Labour are pretending to champion women on the one hand while on the other systematically destroying what it actually means to be a woman.

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koshkat · 08/11/2019 10:55

It will be a cold day in hell before I vote Labour again. I left the party two years ago and will never, ever forgive the way they have treated women. Never.

WhereAreWeNow · 08/11/2019 10:26

I think are a bit muddled anyway. Given that Dawn Butler doesn't know what a woman is and thinks anyone can self-ID into womanhood, it makes the whole thing a bit of a joke.
I'll be voting for them anyway but keeping my fingers crossed that they appoint a shadow women and equalities minister who isn't in the pocket of Stonewall.

koshkat · 08/11/2019 10:21

This is why our right to define ourselves as women/female is of utmost importance and Labour are stripping this from us. It is hogwash and as for Dawn Butler - well, I have no words for her.

Knoxinbox · 08/11/2019 10:12

From the bbc article I just read:

^Labour says it wants to transform the workplace for women. It's a powerful statement of intent from the party.
It's a policy pitched at a large chunk of the electorate. The proposals on maternity pay are obviously designed to appeal to younger women, who want to start or extend a family. But there are also plans for a "menopause policy", which will force companies to address the needs of women at a very different stage in their lives.
And then there are the measures to reduce the gender pay gap, and create a right to flexible working. That would affect pretty much every female employee.^

Maternity leave post-birth and menopause are sex-specific issues that affect natal females only. Like you say how can labour rate on one hand that anyone can self ID as a woman and then state they want to protect and reduce sex- related discrimination on the other?!

ThomasRichard · 08/11/2019 10:08

YANBU. I like these policies but don’t want Dawn Butler Brent anywhere near the Cabinet.