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Professor of Public Engagement has a locked twitter account

69 replies

Doyoumind · 07/11/2019 17:44

It looks like Alice has locked her Twitter account which is really a concerning thing for someone who is supposed to engage with the public. I'm assuming it's a temporary thing as she seems to have referenced Glinner and is probably avoiding an onslaught of rational and reasonable comments.

Did anyone see what she said?

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BuzzShitbagBobbly · 08/11/2019 06:05

I'm thinking forward to the day she finally had to admit she got it oh so very hugely entirely wrong.

It will be a joy,

Macareaux · 08/11/2019 05:53

Although it's hard to follow the twitter thread with all its gaps now, it would seem our dear jolyon has agreed to meet with Emma provided she writes him an acceptably nice email. He acknowledges her qualification but notes that he will likely side with sporting bodies on the issue of men in women's sports regardless. So nice to know that someone in his profession has such an open and enquiring mind.

He also says that none of this wider debate is about whether someone happens to be born with a penis or a vagina. JOLYON, THAT IS EXACTLY AND ONLY WHAT IT IS ABOUT.

He also says that trans people have difficult lives. And I expect some do. And I'd venture to suggest that in many, if not most, cases that is because supporting these people in the belief that they are actually the opposite sex is what is making their lives hard and is not the solution to their underlying problems.

Fallingirl · 08/11/2019 01:02

Glinner wasn’t the first to think up the idea of two sexes. Pretty damn sure his mum knew that one. Give the woman credit.

ChipOnMyOvary · 08/11/2019 01:02

tbh though, medics are often clueless. I know this as I used to stand in for a colleague when medics phoned in for (NEQAS accredited) lab results on their patients. We used to have a right laugh when they didn't know what an ENA was, and had to be told what diagnosis they should give.

ChipOnMyOvary · 08/11/2019 00:58

Crikey, that is worrying.

OldCrone · 08/11/2019 00:55

Alice has a medical degree. She really ought to know better.

ChipOnMyOvary · 08/11/2019 00:35

FondofBeetles response was amazing! Has Alice really got a background in molecular biology? I find this hard to believe. She digs holes and I heard that she;s an anthropologist. Do you need ALevel Chemistry to do that? If not, it shows.

BeMoreMagdalen · 08/11/2019 00:00

Is Dr Janina Ramirez the one who did a documentary on Julian of Norwich? Historian type? If yes, I quite like her,though I do recall chuckling at her very emphatic use of the word 'woman' at every possible juncture. Seems quite appropriate in hindsight.

terryleather · 07/11/2019 23:32

I like Dr Janina Ramirez. I also like crumpets.

I don't like either of them with Marmite though...

StrangeLookingParasite · 07/11/2019 22:38

Got to love FondofBeetles. She is an absolute star.

She really is. Those takedowns, ow, would you like some bepanthen, Ms Roberts?

LangCleg · 07/11/2019 22:22

(If Jim Al-Khalili ever goes Woke creationist - and please don't tell me has already or I'll cry - the #notmynigel will get his revenge.)

LangCleg · 07/11/2019 22:20

Thinking Man's Crumpet Having just seen her simpering over a hairy mammoth (we forgot we had recorded it) DH decided she and BBC2 were to be consigned to the Channel 4 / 5 bin of irritating fluff ruining an interesting topic!

Thinking Man's Crumpet was me throwing the poor old #notmynigel a bone, since he had a longstanding tellybox crush on Alice that I made him cancel on her first outbreak of Woke creationism...

... I haven't made myself cancel mocking him for his bad tellybox-lusting choices though!

Melroses · 07/11/2019 21:58

BeetlesIsAmazing would be a great NN

ErrolTheDragon · 07/11/2019 21:44

I'm sorely tempted to change my NN, if letter count allows, to DrFondofDrFondOfBeetles. (I quite like my current NN so if anyone else wants to nab that, with or without the initial Dr as apt, be my guest)

Slightaggrandising · 07/11/2019 21:21

Beetles is amazing

TheCountessofFitzdotterel · 07/11/2019 20:18

I am really disappointed in how superior she seems to think herself to all us thick non-scientists, based on her tweets.
Ime the good academic communicators make you feel they are talking to you as an equal. She really seems to despise her audience.

NonnyMouse1337 · 07/11/2019 20:06

If she would step out of her ivory tower and mingle with the plebs as part of her public engagement, she'd discover this whole 'humans can change sex' malarky doesn't wash with the vast majority of the population.

Melroses · 07/11/2019 19:55

I'm just waiting to see what hole she digs next.

I am in awe.

AnyOldPrion · 07/11/2019 19:54

She certainly loves digging!

I get that being spammed by GC women includes fewer rape and death threats than the alternative, but really I couldn’t debase myself as she is doing.

Even if I got it wrong to begin with, the thousands of logical, scientific replies would bring me to my senses. And even if I was a base coward, I would stop saying anything rather than jumping in with all three feet and pretending I could talk to clownfish, like some latter day Dr Doolittle.

And of course none of us can move without Glinner to co-ordinate our thinking for us. Men are obviously better at that sort of thing!

Simply bizarre!

Ereshkigal · 07/11/2019 19:53

I think she should probably take a longer break this time.

JoyceJeffries · 07/11/2019 19:46

She’s making a total arse of herself. I’m embarrassed on her behalf.

BeMoreMagdalen · 07/11/2019 19:35

Hot buttered crumpets and a nice thin slice of cheese. Marvellous.

Telegenic sell out scientists, I have no taste for.

BernardBlacksWineIceLolly · 07/11/2019 19:30

my crumpet is an actual crumpet - phwoar!

Alice you dafty. We're not all in thrall the Glinner

RoyalCorgi · 07/11/2019 19:27

Game, set and match to Dr Em, I reckon.

But really, pretty pathetic trying to make common cause with Jolyon Maugham against the nasty mummies.

MockersthefeMANist · 07/11/2019 19:14

Speaking as a thinking man, the requisite academic crumpet in my case is Janina Ramirez. Rrrrrrrrrr.