Lib Dems actively deterring GC women

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The Lib Dem’s are demanding clarification from Labour. Why? Why don’t they just get on with promoting their clearly-superior manifesto 🙃

Lib Dem councillors not happy about Labour's manifesto

That’s a good sign.

Lib Dem councillors not happy about Labour's manifesto

@YourOpinionIsNoted

That's my thinking, just wondering what I had missed . By the way, I am interested in the tory and LD position as I am in a seat where the LDs will be the only real challengers to the tory incumbents, so I am very interested in which is lesser of two evils, lest anyone thinks I am too invested in comparing the two myself!

Somewhere up thread Facts suggested Sarah Brown had not been a LD for some time. Not what this Twitter account suggests

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@thetoddleratemyhomework I wouldn't credit anyone currently in UK politics with that level of intelligence, to be honest.

@EndoplasmicReticulum

They'd be a pretty rubbish Tory undercover bot given that they were suggesting earlier in the thread that the tories would all be throwing their weight behind self ID too, unless you think they were so sneaky that they were trying to look as if they were discrediting the tories without much credibility. That's a level of sneakiness that I didn't think about at all, I have to admit!!

I remain confused as to why the why Lib Dems (and other parties are not wanting/willing to wait for the outcome of the consultation before making policy decisions

They did seem to be rather familiar with what the Tories are thinking, or so they claimed.

I'm wondering if they are in fact a slightly sneaky representative of the Conservative Party.

"Why are you actively discouraging people from voting for us? Do you understand the concept of voting in general?"

Facts has gone missing for a while now. Wonder if someone from the Lib Dems has been in touch to tell them to shut the fuck up and stop telling the internet about how little the party value women? This thread hasn't exactly been great PR for them has it?

I’m really troubled by Helen Belcher’s wife only being known as ‘Helen Belcher’s Wife’.

I was unhappy about typing that, but I was halfway through typing my post when I realised I didn't know her name, and the thread was moving so fast at that point that I was rushing to get the post up.

I should have googled before reposting it though.

I’m really troubled by Helen Belcher’s wife only being known as ‘Helen Belcher’s Wife’.

Yes. I've just Googled and her name is Joanna.

I think there is a fair argument to have about the reasons underlying that, but they shouldn't be abused for what is ultimately their preference. Equally, gays and lesbians like me, who do recognise trans men as men and trans women as women, should not be abused by ""GC"" people and told we aren't real gays/lesbians.

Being lesbian or gay is about being attracted to your own sex. There have always been people arguing with lesbians about why we're not interested in biological males & with gay men about why they're not interested in biological females. Only previously that's been referred to as homophobia or conversion therapy.

I’m really troubled by Helen Belcher’s wife only being known as

‘Helen Belcher’s Wife’.

The Patriarchy has a lovely new dress. Still the same old misogyny though!

I'd love for someone, anyone, to explain how attraction to identity would work, given that it doesn't necessarily tell you anything at all about what kind of body the person has or what they look like in general.

"I am a gay man who has had relationships with trans men. I wouldn't date a woman, I'm not interested in women. Trans men are men."

So if the GRC comes in tomorrow and i decide im a man, complete with my skirt and bra, will you suddenly be attracted to me? But you can say for certain you are absolutely not attracted to me today because today ive told you im a woman and you are not straight.

If i dress as a man live, my live as a man but tell you Im a woman would you be attracted to me then?

Begs the question what it is you actually are attracted to.... the person or the gender stereotype

For someone who wants to demolish our arguments, Factsdontcare is doing a very good job of avoiding the difficult questions.

So is Facts an official LD representative confirming details of their policy?

Transitioning young children ✅
Forcing women to stay in a fundamentally changed marriage ✅
Thinks divorce - when children, jobs and finances are involved - is quick and easy ✅
Glib and sneery with passive-aggressive smileys ✅

That's true, OldCrone. I may be wrong in my assumption that Facts has never been a teenage girl.

I'm not interested in women.

Yes that's very apparent.

"I am a gay man who has had relationships with trans men. I wouldn't date a woman, I'm not interested in women. Trans men are men."

But if facts is a 'gay man' and 'trans men are men' it's possible that facts is actually a transman. It's what I always think when I see 'gay men' arguing for the eradication of homosexuality.

Translation becomes easier once you realise that all the words mean "shut up and do what I say" in the end.