Lib Dems actively deterring GC women

The LibDems are clearly political opportunists who stand for fuck all of value

That is my conclusion too. No real values other than wishy-washy liberalism and 'being nice'.

In vaguely related Lib Dem news, it seems that Ms Challenor is also politically homeless, as an investigation into serious new allegations and safeguarding concerns continues.

Still, I'm sure Ms Challenor will find a new and exciting political role very soon...

All our political parties have been captured by narrow factions and it is in their interests to repel any new boarders who might challenge them or steer policy in a new direction. Lib Dem membership is 115,000: how many motivated joiners would you need to make a difference?

Is it possible that the 'diversity team' is just Sarah Brown? The Lib Dems are not a major league operation 😊

I've campaigned and canvassed for them before and the local team are trying to get me involved in the GE campaign and I'm dodging them because I don't want to have this conversation.
These people have been my friends and we've been through a lot together... I never thought I'd see the day when being an atheist, biologist and feminist would see me being frozen out of the party

Don't spoil your ballot. When your area has an MP who is actively acting against your rights then you helped vote them in if you didn't vote for someone else. Yes it is shit but not making a decision is saying that you are OK with living according to other people's decisions. A choice will be made. There will be an MP in your area. Tbh, I'd be looking at the individuals involved, if Ms X is your MP could you see her personally being openly GC when it matters, same for Mr Y could you see him not pushing Brexit if you lobbied right.

Any answers from Labour or Conservative OP? Though I cannot bear the thought of either of them in their current forms.

There are MPs I would vote for if I lived in their constituency because I support them as individuals, regardless of party affiliation.

However, unfortunately I live in a completely safe seat where I don't support the incumbent MP. The only value my vote has is as a token representation of the popular vote. It's difficult to know what to do.

It’s the Lib Dem... says it all. So bloody liberal they choke themselves.

I genuinely have no one to vote for

can’t believe they actually turned you away rather than at least try for some sort of fudged answer. Quite clear where their priorities lie, and it isn’t women, or even winning elections.

Who now?

Any answers from Labour or Conservative OP? Though I cannot bear the thought of either of them in their current forms.

Oh fuck, I was considering the libdems but won’t now

I’ve come out of lurking for this. Pom bears, Centreparcs (of old MN), cancel the cheque, Ocado etc!

A candidate for LD in Wales has been asked to step aside for the remain alliance today.

Jasmine Josephine Sakura-Rose’s principle reason for standing was for trans rights and they have discussed this in further detail on their blog.

I’m not sure if the blog is secure so I won’t link to it but their Twitter handle is jaz4caerphilly and links to the blog can be found there.

I gave the LibDems many, many chances to shift even a tiny bit from TWAW AND TERFS ARE BAD before I canned my membership, but they weren’t budging. Only the local organiser guy who actually came to speak to me face to face, and had seen the antics of Sarah Brown and associated flying monkeys for himself, was sympathetic. My former MP, now candidate, was very keen to tell me that we need to be kind, but unable to explain why women are the ones who have to make all the concessions. Fuck them. They don’t like women. Don’t vote for them and don’t give them your money.

Thanks very much for your post, people are loving it on my Twitter timeline (in a shocked way of course)

And in today's edition of "We don't want women's votes" it's... the Lib Dems!

I wonder how many residents of the Richmond Park constituency frequent this board? This is a marginal seat (Lib Dems lost by 40 seats in 2017) Perhaps they could contact Sarah Olney and find out whether she has a coherent opinion on this topic?

I'm a previously Tory voting Remainer. I was planning to vote Lib Dem in the election. This thread has horrified me. I knew the Lib Dems had said some stupid stuff on trans rights but was prepared to hold my nose and put my x in the box anyway. But if they are actually going as far to turn away gender critical women from the party I'm not sure I can. I'm truly politically homeless. 😟

genuinely don't know what to do

🎵🎵No matter who you vote for the government always gets in!🎶🎶

I've got the same dilemma. Always voted libdem since I was 18! Am very pro-remain and now my choice is between Layla Moran and the tories!! :( genuinely don't know what to do

Imagine if you had written

"I am an atheist, that means that while I do not believe anybody should suffer discrimination or abuse because of their religion, I do not believe in God"

and they had replied

"We are a religion inclusive party and as liberals champion everyone's right to live the life they want, so we probably aren't the party for you".

Their response just doesn't make sense as a reply to your question.

Are the politicians going to be invited to do web chats on MN?

Will Jo Swinson confirm that the local Lib Dem candidate is 'not for us' if we don't believe it's possible to change sex?

Not the LibDems, but the Scottish Greens are using (we think) Terf Blocker or similar on Twitter. One of my circle of fiends noticed she'd been blocked- no interactions or alternative explanations she could think of. O can see them- but then I'm a very small fish on that particular sewer. Is this a thing now, too? Hoping they come to my door now so I can tell them how they lost my vote.

I will give them that at least they were honest about it. I wouldnt trust the Boris Party to say anything except whatever you wanted to hear. Labour has gone further than any other party imo in eliminating any way of promoting the rights of women as a class.

When I think about this I think again that I MUST be wrong about this issue. I then try to imagine myself saying TWAW and I'm back to the beginning again.

I have never voted anything other than Liberal/LibDem since the first GE in which I was eligible to vote. That was in 1970, when I was 24. The constituency where we've lived for over 40 years returned a Liberal/LibDem MP for almost a century until 2010, when it went Conservative. The LDs are still the only viable contender and I would truly love to see the Tories lose the seat. Now agonising over what to do...

So you can be a pure blue Tory and be welcomed with open arms to the Lib Dems. But if you refuse to believe being a woman is all about pink and glitter and feelz then you're not welcome?

I hope Jo Swinson loses her seat (not likely as it doesn't look as if the Conservatives are putting a candidate forward - some dodgy dealing going on there?)

Autumn, I think non man was the Greens.