Lib Dems actively deterring GC women

I’m glad you’ve contacted the main membership address. I’d like to know if it official policy to prevent gender critical women from joining.

Please let us know what response you get.

Farron didn't tow the party's religious line. He wasn't in their clique.

Farron was ousted by a particular part of the party and their influence has increased over the rest of the leadership since.

“ Either way, it's now a very welcoming party for homophobes.”

I hope people remember that.

You can be a Lib Dem MP and believe that gay sex is a sin (Tim Farron), but apparently you can't be a member and believe that biological sex exists. It's pretty bat shit crazy

If you think the party is institutionally homophobic cos of its policy on how lesbians can have dicks then why is it crazy?

Presumably because there was a big hoohah and Farron was ousted, and much progressive rejoicing among conflicted LibDems did abound. Looks like they weren't all that serious about it, and maybe they just didn't like Farron's haircut. Either way, it's now a very welcoming party for homophobes. Good to know.

Sorry obv wrong thread, thanks for your hospitality.

You can be a Lib Dem MP and believe that gay sex is a sin (Tim Farron), but apparently you can't be a member and believe that biological sex exists. It's pretty bat shit crazy

If you think the party is institutionally homophobic cos of its policy on how lesbians can have dicks then why is it crazy?

In my constituency which is a target seat and has a good sized membership no more than 50 are actually active and turn up for meetings and participate.

I know that NONE of them had school age or nursery age children.

Most are pensioners, some are students and recent grads and there are a few single men.

Women in their 30s and 40s?

Nope. None.

And that is where the problem ultimately lies.

I therefore find it particularly intriguing how the leader is a women in her 30s...

... If you look more generally at political representation across all parties at council level, the single most unrepresented group is women of an age who have young children. The numbers of women have increased but there is still an acute unrepresentation of mothers with school age children.

But if you can’t face voting Tory, and the trans issue is your main voting criterion, you could support the Communists!

Or move to Edinburgh South West before 26th November and vote for Joanna Cherry!

I guess that's a "No" then.

Despite all this crap, I still don’t think Lib Dems are necessarily any worse for women than Labour or the Tories

I don't know - this is pretty bad.

You can be a Lib Dem MP and believe that gay sex is a sin (Tim Farron), but apparently you can't be a member and believe that biological sex exists. It's pretty bat shit crazy.

And in case there is any doubt, my major concerns are with children: children who are being experimented upon, emotionally abused, surgically altered and mutilated (in the States), and sterilised (in all jurisdictions).

Babdoc, I’m surprised they haveNt been captured by woke yet so thanks for the info but....I can’t vote for them.

Sorry Babdoc

This election was very badly timed for us: give us another year or two and there could be a sea change. Then we would have had some kudos, but here we have major political parties saying, "No, you cannot even f***g join us." Fuck that, I was going to vote Lib in a marginal Lib seat. If I can't join them I;m not fucking voting for them.

Babdock what is their stance on Brexit?

If any of you have a Communist party candidate standing - they’re the only party who are completely gender critical and understand that you can’t deal with women’s sex based oppression if you can’t define women as a class.
I say this reluctantly, as I am a Tory myself, and have been ever since Thatcher. I’ve always been proud that our party has had two female prime ministers to every other party’s total of zero. But if you can’t face voting Tory, and the trans issue is your main voting criterion, you could support the Communists!
And even if not, you can find some comforting gc analysis in back copies of the Morning Star.

Personally, I think we should organise a gc march before the ge. It is well overdue.

There are a handful of LDs driving this policy through fear within the party. That's a reflection of how few people effectively run the party.

I thought I was going to vote Lib Dem - they have a good chance here following the unitetoremain campaign. It has been a Tory safe seat but we are a strong remain area. I am not sure what to do now (ardent remainer, obviously GC, would have once described myself as left-wing...). Politics is fucked and depressing and shite and the options of who to vote for just seem to get worse at every turn.

Where is the reboot button?

The Lib dems have a good chance in my area but this has made my mind up, Boris it is!

No, please don't! Spoil your paper. That is a valid political act.

Quite clear where their priorities lie, and it isn’t women, or even winning elections

Their priorities are 'liberalism': people having the freedom to do what they want; unhampered by the state. Conflicts of interest are too messy; and they will always go with the latest liberation movement.

Brilliant. Thanks op.

The Lib dems have a good chance in my area but this has made my mind up, Boris it is!

I've got the same dilemma. Always voted libdem since I was 18! Am very pro-remain and now my choice is between Layla Moran and the tories!! sad genuinely don't know what to do

Spoiling your ballot can be a very meaningful act - and make sure you explain to local canvassers exactly why you are doing that.

It's is very interesting how many of us have party loyalties depending on where we live in the U.K and the political and social cultures in those places.

The Lib Dem’s are massively misogynistic in my local area. They don’t give a shit about any women’s issues if those women are actual women. They’ve gone totally woke for a few years here. I do think this is a hugely important point that needs to be made in the press. People are looking to them to provide some middle ground, when they are anything but in reality.

I have never voted anything other than Liberal/LibDem since the first GE in which I was eligible to vote. That was in 1970, when I was 24. The constituency where we've lived for over 40 years returned a Liberal/LibDem MP for almost a century until 2010, when it went Conservative. The LDs are still the only viable contender and I would truly love to see the Tories lose the seat. Now agonising over what to do... sad

You have to consider what really means most to you. No party deserves your vote just because that has been your habit. For me it comes down to FIRST ORDER issues. What are they for you?