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Lib Dems actively deterring GC women

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DontBuyANewMumCashmere · 07/11/2019 13:48

Today I emailed the Lib Dems expressing an interest in joining their party.

I stated no one should receive discrimination or abuse for their transgender status but explained that I am GC and I asked if there was room for GC women in the party.

I received the following response:
Thank you for getting in touch. Whilst we appreciate your interest in joining, you should be aware that the Liberal Democrats are a trans inclusive party, and we have made it clear that we fully behind trans communities. As liberals we champion everyone’s right to live the life they want. By the sounds of your email it appears that your values are not aligned with ours so we are probably not the right the party for you.

I am flabbergasted. I didn't expect that I would have to believe that humans can change biological sex in order to be a member of the Lib Dems.

I am so disappointed. I was going to vote for them in the GE (passionate Remainer) but I cannot if this is their response.

There is no one to vote for. I am lost.

Lib Dems actively deterring GC women
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DontBuyANewMumCashmere · 17/11/2019 21:29

Will also start a new thread...

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DontBuyANewMumCashmere · 17/11/2019 21:28

Lib Dem women are now doing their own declaration a la Labour one!

Please sign and share!
You don’t have to show your name.

www.ipetitions.com/petition/lib-dem-sex-based-rights-declaration

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Jux · 17/11/2019 20:20

I noticed that too, shame so many companies haven't been given that advice.

lionheart · 17/11/2019 20:16

Notice the GRA has nothing to do with access to bathrooms because that provision is covered by the EA...

TheHeathenOfSuburbia · 17/11/2019 19:11

Absolutely no way am i voting Conservative, a Tory vote is going to be interpreted as pro-austerity and pro-brexit, no matter how many sternly worded GC letters one writes.

RedToothBrush · 17/11/2019 19:02

Sal is one of the lead cheerleader as far as I can tell.

Conversations with sal seem to lead to conversion to the woo.

BovaryX · 17/11/2019 19:00

Who the hell do I vote for? The Tory, the misogynist or the anti semite?

You don’t agree they haven’t been demonized? But you think the word ‘Tory’ is an equivalent condemnation as ‘misogynist’ and ‘anti semite’?

MotherOfSoupDragons · 17/11/2019 18:50

What is the obvious answer, Bovary? What do you find incredible? I don't agree that the Tories have been demonised any more than the other parties. Don't understand what your point is.

BovaryX · 17/11/2019 18:12

Motherofsoupdragons,
Dunno. The answer seems so obvious. You know what I find incredible? Maybe the demonization of Conservatives needs to end. When you look at the alternatives

MotherOfSoupDragons · 17/11/2019 17:22

Who the hell do I vote for? The Tory, the misogynist or the anti semite?

EmpressLesbianInChair · 17/11/2019 14:29

Sal Brinton was the one at the Fawcett Soc / 50-50 Parliament who said she’d be happy with an all male parliament if half of them identified as trans.

koshkat · 17/11/2019 12:05

What a pair of complete dicks they are. Jeez.

boatyardblues · 17/11/2019 11:46

I don’t have enough eyerolls for those Cardiff LibDem candidates’ tweets.

SunsetBeetch · 17/11/2019 11:30

Nice chap

Lib Dems actively deterring GC women
SunsetBeetch · 17/11/2019 11:30

The Liberal Democrats parliamentary candidates for Cardiff South, Cardiff Central, Cardiff North and Cardiff West t.co/AnZaQhSbQO

twitter.com/ripx4nutmeg/status/1195988527084953606?s=19

Lib Dems actively deterring GC women
Lib Dems actively deterring GC women
Lib Dems actively deterring GC women
ginghamstarfish · 17/11/2019 10:38

just looked it up - [email protected] if anyone else wants to send this link

koshkat · 17/11/2019 09:56

Done. I wait for the Tory, Green and Lib Dem replies but I know that the Greens and Lib Dems will likely be even worse. The sitting Tory MP has been very on the ball in the past and I suspect is very GC.

How did we get here? Feeling really upset this morning. Sad

koshkat · 17/11/2019 09:48

OMFG I have only just noticed this bit and am fucking FURIOUS now. I mentioned us being called cervix havers and other hate speech.

'Women who are not trans should not be attacked with the kinds of ridiculous language you have mentioned in your email. We cannot tolerate a situation where women are attacked and criticised for being born women. If I were ever to come across this kind of bigoted bullying, I would condemn it strongly and, if necessary take steps to report offenders.'

He has actually said women who are not trans. He SAID IT. FFS. Another email is now being sent.

koshkat · 17/11/2019 09:45

I did send him a good long email back mentioning, ahem, chromosomes and took him to task on a few other things too.

It was a very weird email he sent because he was not pro men competing against women in sport, but thought it was ok for men to share loos and changing spaces with women.

This bit got short shrift from me too in the light of Labour pretending that men can be women if they put on a dress:

'I hope you will see that, despite our different opinions on trans-gender women, the Labour Party is the party for women. We have more female MPs and than any other party (almost 50% more than the Conservatives,despite us having fewer MPs). We are the only party to use All Women Shortlists for at least 50% of our target seats and 75% of conference spaces. We have a separate women's conference. Women's Officers are compulsory on all constituency 'executive committees' (the governing body for constituencies) and all executive committees must have a gender balance of 50% women officers. The same applies to our national executive committee (NEC) and national policy forum'

Not enough eye rolls in the fucking world. They have lost the plot and it is sad to see.

SunsetBeetch · 17/11/2019 09:28

Why are you surprised that the Liberal Democrats (the clue is in the name) wouldn't want to recruit openly prejudiced people to their ranks?

Tim Farron

BeMoreMagdalen · 17/11/2019 00:15

'Because he's a man' is a generalization, but it is remarkably appropriate in a great many situations. I've found myself saying 'Because Bloke' rather a lot recently. Sometimes you just get fed up wasting words on long explanations as to why male humans are entitled wankers who piss all over women at every opportunity. BB works when I can't be arsed.

OccasionalKite · 17/11/2019 00:08

Yes, OldCrone - there is that, too!

OccasionalKite · 17/11/2019 00:06

That is the thing. Those politicians who are bending themselves over to accommodate men who claim womanhood, but do nothing at all for women and children.

OldCrone · 17/11/2019 00:03

Why does this Labour pillock only care about being "fair" to "trans-gender women" and not at all about being fair to actual women?

Because he's a transphobic bigot who doesn't believe that transwomen are women. If he believed transwomen were women, their feelings wouldn't matter either.

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