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Transwoman MMA fighter says unfair to compete against women

37 replies

Janie143 · 06/11/2019 07:38

Saw this on another thread and thought it deserves its own thread. Looking at you now ICO and other sporting bodies.....

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CranberriesChoccy · 06/11/2019 08:59

@NotBadConsidering

Although thinking about it, it’s frustrating that we have to get excited about someone stating the fucking obvious

That's where we are in this ever-woking world where we are expected to deny basic science in the name of feels.

ArnoldWhatshisknickers · 06/11/2019 08:54

Of course a male should be competing against other males, it is ludicrous that we live in a world where there is anything noteworthy about it.

In the MMA world there is, however, some discussion on the effect of men taking oestrogen as it protects bone density so may be performance enhancing. This is a sport that for a period allowed testosterone as HRT in older men (over 35 as I recall) but then banned it as they found the impact of returning the hormone level to that of the younger self had weird effects. I imagine the larger promotions will be monitoring closely.

TheProdigalKittensReturn · 06/11/2019 08:42

Brit and American TRAs love to appropriate the experiences of Brazilian transsexuals too so this is going to really annoy them. Well done Anne!

NotBadConsidering · 06/11/2019 08:37

Although thinking about it, it’s frustrating that we have to get excited about someone stating the fucking obvious Hmm

ChattyLion · 06/11/2019 08:31

This is what a proper sportsperson looks like. Thanks Anne for speaking up publicly.

DuMondeB · 06/11/2019 08:26

Now that’s a trans sports star worth celebrating (take note, Dr McKinnon)!

andyoldlabour · 06/11/2019 08:22

Is it possible that this could be a tipping point?
Thank you Ann Veriato for being an honest competitor, and for shining a light on what less than honest people are trying to say.

TheProdigalKittensReturn · 06/11/2019 08:06

Well, that's the difference between someone who's an actual competitor who's good at their sport and someone whose only hope of winning is by cheating, isn't it?

SarahTancredi · 06/11/2019 08:05

What a refreshing change!!

Nice to see.

NotBadConsidering · 06/11/2019 07:56

The ultimate aim of MMA or boxing is to cause traumatic brain injury in your opponent. To inflict a knock out is to inflict TBI. If a trans woman wants to compete against women, they are happy with the idea that they will inflict traumatic brain injury on a woman.

So nice to read about someone who understands that and respects that aspect of disparity. Particularly liked this:

If I beat men my entire career, I can still beat them despite the hormone process. I only know that I'm good after I beat men. That's what makes me happy and hungrier to train. I don't think it's fair to fight women.

Despite the hormone process. Still as strong. Well done Anne.

feelingverylazytoday · 06/11/2019 07:53

Well done Anne Veriato. I have respect for people like this.

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