Emma Watson talks to Paris Lees about feminism

Helen Mirren talks to Kate Moss about obesity.

Emma Watson RUINED the Beauty and the Beast remake for me. She was so badly miscast, coming across as wooden, cold and a bit nasty, which was a shame because the rest of the cast were so good. Odd, considering the way Lily James and Naomi Scott were so warm and human in their remakes and how Halle Bailey seems the perfect choice for The Little Mermaid. Gugu Mbatha-Raw should have got the part of Belle. She'd have been perfect.

Is there an actual reason that I'm meant to assume that a young person best known for being in Harry Potter films knows more about feminism than I do? Cause I'm afraid "well she's famous" isn't really a good enough reason.

@gc

To me, feminism is not about tearing down other women, simply because there may be a part of her ideology you disagree with, or deciding that a privileged woman should not have a voice, or patronising women, or enjoying the collective thrill of bringing down another woman.

I think Emma will be putting a lot of people off feminism with her 'self-partnered' nonsense, and will put her in the daft Hollywood types bin with Gwyneth Paltrow and her Gloop.

Why don’t you read what was written Tulips? The criticisms are substantial, not merely nastiness.

What a horrible nasty thread with posters rushing to criticise Emma Watson. This is why so many women feel alienated by feminism.

Feminism frightens a lot of women.

What a horrible nasty thread with posters rushing to criticise Emma Watson. This is why so many women feel alienated by feminism.

Oh the horror. Horrible nasty women not being kind. Feminism is not about women being kind and shutting up. That's what patriarchy is.

And doesn't lees think being treated 'like a piece of meat' is hot?

Watson would appear to have done little research. Or perhaps she has but, like so many others, doesn't really treat trans women like women.

What a horrible nasty thread with posters rushing to criticise Emma Watson. This is why so many women feel alienated by feminism.

When ever!

Whoever I see this thread title, my brain keeps making up new ones, like "Donald Trump talks to Boris Johnson about imposter syndrome".

I started watching that interview. The trouble with actors being interviewed is you never know when they're not acting.

However, I persisted.

I'm amazed that she's able to empathise with trans people (women) wanting to pee wherever they feel like, but not able to empathise with women, who for a variety of reasons, some very serious, don't want self identifying trans women in public toilets. She gets emotional about being excluded but is happy to exclude the most vulnerable women and girls out there from the most basic services.

Perhaps she needs to use some public toilets, alone, at night, to help her foster some empathy for actual females?
The interview starts off talking about privilege, and she's so encased by it she simply has no idea. She'll never, ever be on a ward in a multi-bed ward in hospital, she'll never, ever go for a Pap test and have a nurse who she's not met before (so doesn't know the sex) turn up.

She talks about how other people haven't had the same experiences as her but can imagine because they'll have felt the feelings from other experiences. That's true. The reverse isn't. She hasn't had and has the security of knowing she'll never have, the same experiences as other normal women and she apparently cannot empathise with them as a result. And that's the better option, because if she does and doesn't care that makes her a truly awful person, which I don't get the impression she is.

^ I remember now what itcwas6that put me off. She said "I'm so happy that Malala has identified herself as a feminist" or something along those lines. As if what Malala's actual ACTIONS were somehow not on par with her, Emma's, identity as a feminist. The usual privileged white celebrity crap.

I never liked her, but I liked her a lot less years ago when she and Malala did something together and there was Emma implying that they were equal as activists. And all her fans cheering her on.

The stuff she spouts is about what I expect from a university educated person of her age. There is no real ability to reflect on your own culture's ideology taught, it's quite depressing.

And on the whole self partnering stuff, that's so heteronormative.

Strictly speaking, that's one thing it's definitely not.

And on the whole self partnering stuff, that's so heteronormative.

Tracey Emin married a rock in her garden. That's what proper artists do.

I used to buy Vogue to look at the clothing but the blurry heroin chic photos of emaciated women who had fallen off the furniture in the dark and had the 3k skirt scrunched up under their arse made me give up. You just knew they were so off their heads the photographers had either shagged her before or after. Aspirational? Nope, sad.

Has it got better? Can I buy Vogue again?

Would Emma Watson get a second chance if she seriously assaulted someone and got sent to prison for it? Women are generally unforgiven for crimes.

Lees certainly got a second chance - Lees is now a minor celebrity.

Lees for all her faults had a much harder time than Watson. The assault was when she was much younger and wasn't it a punter? That doesn't excuse it but people do change and should be allowed second chances.

I thought it was when lees was robbing someone?

She'll be bringing out a range of Shay butter for one's nether regions

Wasn't there some pube oil a couple of years ago?