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Maxine Blythin - 2019 Kent Woman Player of the Year

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andyoldlabour · 04/11/2019 14:41

I don't know how this passed me by, but transgender cricketer Maxine Blythin was awarded 2019 Kent Woman Player of the Year.
I have no words left to describe this situation, none at all.

www.kentonline.co.uk/canterbury/sport/stevo-wins-big-at-kent-awards-213134/

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RoyalCorgi · 06/11/2019 12:05

They have absolutely no way of containing this. Zero.

Does there come a tipping point, I wonder? When every women's team has at least four male players, or five male players, or six? And someone says that this madness has to stop? I just genuinely wonder how far it will be allowed to continue.

LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 06/11/2019 11:57

With the - now is it NZ or Aus? - women’s football teams now paying comparable fees to the male players - I wonder if anyone will take full advantage of getting the men’s wages in the woman’s league?

ChattyLion · 06/11/2019 08:43

Play against someone your own size.

andyoldlabour · 06/11/2019 08:12

LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD

That is really going to upset the apple cart, the fighter saying that even though they have had hormone treatment, they are still stronger than women.
Thank god for one athlete who has a sense of right and wrong.

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midcenturylegs · 06/11/2019 08:10

@Fatshedra that probably came out a little harsh! What I meant was that the more talented sportspersons will do better in most tournaments (usually a few different ones each summer) hence taking a lot of trophies as it'll be based purely on numbers. Players' player awards v different, recognises improvement etc

LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 06/11/2019 07:19

To right! But the male opponents probably won’t like it really will they?

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5510825/amp/Transgender-MMA-fighter-Anne-Veriato-brutally-defeats-male-opponent.html?__twitter_impression=true

Fatshedra · 06/11/2019 07:08

t goes - always the same talented males (and previously females) getting the awards for different comps. Which is the way it should be

Nice

midcenturylegs · 05/11/2019 21:00

Club awards are granted based on stats. Have been to a few of these ceremonies and that's how it goes - always the same talented males (and previously females) getting the awards for different comps. Which is the way it should be.
The Players Award is different, that is based on team spirit, focus, personal development, integrity. Was just thinking that perhaps Kent CC didn't have a choice in awarding MB the award - what shouldn't have happened was that MB was employed to join the team at all.

Not sure if it was here or another Er forum. Someone mentioned women's cricket not being lucrative so why are trans women bothering. This is changing. In Australia the Cricket Board pledged a campaign about 3 years ago (I've probably got the dates wrong a little) to ensure that in 5 years women would be earning on par with men. Not really sure what the ECB are thinking but poss along the same lines. (If no one knows I can try to find out).

Fatshedra · 05/11/2019 17:39

Written to my Msp on this to flag unfairness on women's sport

teawamutu · 05/11/2019 17:34

Looking at that ratio (is 100% still a ratio?) the interesting question for me is, does this show that people have been thinking this all along and now feel brave enough to say so, OR that they simply didn't know? That with sunlight, we're starting to see what normal people think?

ErrolTheDragon · 05/11/2019 17:08

I was wondering if the award was on some specific metric like combined batting/bowling statistics which blythin topped - in which case the club would be damned if they did and damned and cancelled Hmm if they didn't. But if that was what happened - no violins, they should have been able to anticipate that situation from the outset.

lydiamajora · 05/11/2019 17:01

Hard to say, RoyalCorgi - stupidity? Easy woke points? Shameless opportunism?

Their usual posts on Twitter are lucky to receive ten replies. Well, erm, they've certainly improved their audience engagement! Now they just need to figure out how to keep that engagement up without having all the comments telling them they're full of shit.

Ameanstreakamilewide · 05/11/2019 16:42

McDuffy, I'm sorry to hear Baroness Heyhoe Flint is no longer with us.

And i'm glad to hear that she would have been as thoroughly pissed off about this shit show, as we are.

Datun · 05/11/2019 16:42

It will come back to bite them on the arse as Errol says when every team starts fielding ringers.

Course it will. Are these women really so devoid of imagination as to be wholly unable to play this forward?

First one, then two, then five.

They have absolutely no way of containing this. Zero.

midcenturylegs · 05/11/2019 16:42

Ah I must have been counting wrong Confused Ignore me!
Good to see the comments coming through (still) thick and fast.

andyoldlabour · 05/11/2019 16:40

"I'm old-fashioned enough to believe that the people who run sports clubs should have some kind of sense of decency and fair play."

From my early days in sport - tennis, badminton and cricket, it was based on if you were the right sort of person, what your background was. There was a lot of backbiting and misogyny, particularly cricket where the women were supposed to slave away making tea or maybe scoring.
If this isn't stopped then it will result in a kind of arms race (or *** race [grin}) where all sense of fairness is abandoned.

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BarbaraStrozzi · 05/11/2019 16:37

Yes I don't think Blythin's team mates give a shiny shit so long as they top th league.

Bit like the women on Porth rugby team (who are not only fielding a team unfairly but putting their opponents at risk of spinal injuries).

It will come back to bite them on the arse as Errol says when every team starts fielding ringers.

ErrolTheDragon · 05/11/2019 16:31

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LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 05/11/2019 16:27

I can’t see this happening in baseball in the US - it’s like a religion there isn’t it? Or am I wrong?

RoyalCorgi · 05/11/2019 16:18

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BarbaraStrozzi · 05/11/2019 16:14

There must be a cricketing equivalent of an 'own goal'?

Out, hit wicket?

stealthsquirrelnutkin · 05/11/2019 16:12

My favourite of the Twatter responses so far, chosen from amongst stiff competition, is this one line comment from @LOVEKentCoast

"What an extraordinary coincidence"

Isn't it just? A 6ft 4" transwoman joins the team and to everyone's amazement it just so happens that she excels at playing cricket, at least in comparison to her teammates of the old fashioned cunty type.

Such an extraordinary coincidence, whoever could have predicted such a thing?

ErrolTheDragon · 05/11/2019 16:12

There must be a cricketing equivalent of an 'own goal'?

andyoldlabour · 05/11/2019 15:45

lydiamajora

I love to see own goals, thay can be so funny, but well over 780 of them is hilarious. Grin

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andyoldlabour · 05/11/2019 15:44

ErrolTheDragon

Yes, they are really getting ratio'd on that twitter feed, now up to 788 replies.

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