Simon Fanshawe calls for calm

This is amazing. How can any argue against it?

Yes, Datun, I thought the parallel there was very striking.

I didn't realise that that there were people in the gay rights movement who had resisted trans being tacked on to LGB right from the start.

I don't suppose they wanted their movement hijacked any more than feminism does.

“In the early years of Stonewall, every defeat was a victory because what happened was that even though we got defeated in parliament, we gained public support. So, what happened with Section 28 was that we lost the battle, but we started to win the war for public acceptance.

Very interesting indeed. That's exactly what's happening now. The public are not behind the trans ideology. Which is why it's so shocking when services, retailers and MPs are.

But it looks as though it's a familiar phenomenon.

To quote Macklemore 😂 - this is fucking awesome!

I’ve only just looked up the A. The “definition” is quite mad.

Excellent article.

I first read that as, 'Simon Cowell calls for calm' which was a little surreal. But great interview - thanks for the link.

Amazing article, thanks for sharing.

Fantastic piece- so calm, measured and articulate. I find this whole thing so stressful- the inability to even discuss the issues without being branded a TERF. I will share this article. Thanks for posting it.

What a brilliant article.
MNHQ please take heed!

I've been sharing it on several platforms (including Twitter) since early this morning and it's getting a lot of traction. I don't know how anyone could possibly think what Simon's said, isn't reasonable. No hate, just facts.

It's very clear but because he says TWANW the whole thing will be dismissed as transphobic. It's all-or-nothing to the woke.

Oooh! Wonder what combination of words enticed that ?

The formation of LGB Alliance is the best move imaginable.
Simon will be able to refute any accusations of transphobia and with such a strong and knowledgeable team of co-founders I feel optimistic for the first time that sense will prevail.

This interview lays out very clearly the manifesto of the alliance which I doubt could be interpreted in any other way than its intention.

I for one am celebrating this and each development,it's made my year.

I like him. It's sad that he will be heard more than the women who have been saying the exact same thing for yonks, but he's in a powerful and visible position, so thanks for saying it. Good article, calm, measured, no hate, no 'erasure'.

And if you allow self-ID to become the basis for the law, which means that a man on his say so can be treated legally as a woman, it then means that men can claim discrimination against them as women.

He nails it. Anyone that cannot see this is the outcome of self-id is either too distracted or purposely vindictive.

Brilliant article. Thank you for sharing it. The contrast between calm and compassionate debate and violence, threats and screaming slogans is made very clear.

BernardBlacksWineIceLolly fantastic idea! It's the most comprehensive yet gentle piece I've seen and a perfect intro to the topic. Will be sending it to ALL the candidates in my area.

Absolutely fantastic article. I'm so impressed that it covers pretty much all the main issues so clearly. The history was fascinating to read and the support lent by lesbians who are now betrayed by this new ideology.

He hasn't said anything that women haven't already explained, but it is good to see more men speaking out and with his background and credentials, it's going to lend a lot more weight behind the GC arguments that will make it harder for the general public and politicians to ignore as some 'tiny faction of crazy old feminists'.

And in Holyrood magazine no less! :)

That article is fantastic. What a humane, smart man Simon Fanshawe comes across as.

I’d love for as many politicians as possible to read that. One to send to my MP I think

You can’t self-ID out of female genital mutilation – that happens because you are a woman. Your access to abortion and getting pregnant – that happens because you are a woman. Stonewall has confused legal and biological questions with social identity and when you do that, you start to make bad law

Well quite

It's an excellent interview. Clear and focused. And pointed towards the gay men who benefited from lesbian support in the past. I hope a few of them feel gently chastened.

Love the joke about a slightly secure password on the internet

Heard him being interviewed on LBC last week. Came across as very compassionate and quite sad that he needed to do this.

He’s done really well to get all that in. When you read these articles, by women as well as men, you can hardly believe there is an argument to be had because all GC people are asking for is a bit of common sense