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Female candidate posts meme threatening Joanna Cherry with bleach.

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BeMoreMagdalen · 01/11/2019 15:13

I didn't think it was possible for political discourse to get more divisive and extreme in a civilized society, but Frances Carmel Hoole, who apparently standing for election, tweeted a meme of herself threatening Joanna Cherry with a spray bottle of bleach and the term T*RF.

She has deleted it and is now complaining about the sound condemnation she is receiving on Twitter. I need to get a hammock for my face to help with the continual dropping of my jaw.

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LangCleg · 02/11/2019 09:54

And I'm just staggered that this woman has been through the Jo Cox leadership programme. It is no tribute to Jo Cox that the foundation in her name is producing politicians like Frances here. An absolute travesty and completely disrespectful to the memory of a murdered woman.

GCAcademic · 02/11/2019 09:53

Never mind hate crime, why is this kind of behaviour from TRAs not treated as terrorism? Threatening violence to politicians and intimidating the public in pursuit of a political outcome is the very definition of terrorism.

Tanith · 02/11/2019 09:53

She’s a 22 year old numpty, Pthagonal Smile Yes, she really is that naive! Totally unsuited as a candidate in grown up politics, but that goes without saying.

LangCleg · 02/11/2019 09:52

Cherry is an out lesbian, so perhaps she can pursue it as a homophobic hate crime.

She could, yes. And, if she did, there would be absolutely nothing Frances could do about it. Frances's motives and intentions - her "perceptions" - would be irrelevant. Joanna's perception would be all that counted. It would be counted in the hate crime statistics that wokesters like Frances love to quote.

And if Frances doesn't like the idea of being a hate criminal then perhaps she might like to do a bit of MN-style digging for Fair Cop.

boatyardblues · 02/11/2019 09:46

Cherry is an out lesbian, so perhaps she can pursue it as a homophobic hate crime. As lesbian women make up a significant element of the GC grouping, it looks very much like indirect homophobic discrimination.

ScrimshawTheSecond · 02/11/2019 09:40

That's a good point, LangCleg. This would be an example of hate crime, surely? I guess women don't count when it comes to hate crime, though. Unless they are women*.

MockersthefeMANist · 02/11/2019 09:35

In the 2015 wipeout, Labour's only MP in Scotland was Ian Murray in Edinburgh South, next door to Cherry. He only got back in because the SNP candidate was found out posting offensive messages online under a pseudonym.

You'd think people would learn lessons.

LangCleg · 02/11/2019 09:31

“I didn't perceive this as a threat so I apologise I didn't see it that way.”

Unless the English language has lost all meaning, she's also not apologising for sending a threat to a competing candidate, but giving a metaphorical shrug of "well if you want to take offence, I can't stop you". (Which is a classic tool found in the extensive toolbox of any abuser).

Additionally, Frances can't have it both ways. Either soi disant "hate crime" is in the eye of the beholder or it isn't. What Frances did or did not perceive is irrelevant. What Joanna perceived is the only factor at play. The police and the CPS say so.

Perhaps Frances should investigate the Fair Cop campaign if she doesn't want to be a hate criminal?

Pthagonal · 02/11/2019 09:24

She may have been sent that meme, but she didn't have to repost it, especially hoping that Joanna Cherry would 'taste the rainbow'. Is she that naive that she really didn't see that as a threat?

Ereshkigal · 02/11/2019 09:17

3. Frances may be an immature young woman who shouldn’t be in that position, but she said she was sent that meme. I’d love to know who sent it to her - and who created it in the first place.

Some woke male trans ally. He posted on the thread where Hoole "apologised" with a DARVO.on GC feminists. See Wings Over Scotland and ForWomen Scotland who both challenged him.

Tanith · 02/11/2019 09:07
  1. It’s appalling and has rightly been condemned.
  1. It’s Scotland: different laws on self-id, they have their own affiliated parties and elect their own candidates.
  1. Frances may be an immature young woman who shouldn’t be in that position, but she said she was sent that meme. I’d love to know who sent it to her - and who created it in the first place.
  1. Let’s not pretend that the SNP is GC and doesn’t have its own share of TRA lunatics.
  1. Having said that, Joanne Cherry is fantastic and hopefully this will give her a clear run for re-election. We certainly need her!
Chiochan · 02/11/2019 08:39

Labour really is beyond pathetic at this point, and I am going canvassing for them tomorrow.what a world we live in!

Lumene · 02/11/2019 06:15
Shock

MP threatening another MP

Shock
SonicVersusGynaephobia · 02/11/2019 06:14

This definitely looks like a Momentum candidate.

noodlenosefraggle · 02/11/2019 00:34

issues

noodlenosefraggle · 02/11/2019 00:33

Would I be right in thinking that it has been the local constituency party that selects these candidates? Does anyone know? If yes, that would explain it, I suppose, since they seem to mainly be filled with Momentum activists now.
There have been issued with candidates being imposed from a central list of activists into cop's in some areas. Not sure about this case. But same result. Momentum running the party at every level.

Earlybed · 02/11/2019 00:19

Scottish Labour are the political equivalent of the Marie Celeste these days. The rise of the SNP and the complete refusal of ScotLab to countenance any notion of iScot have decimated it.

motorcyclenumptiness · 02/11/2019 00:00

Labour's commitment to repelling the votes of more than half the population is as baffling as it is unwavering

CaptainKirksSpikeyGhost · 01/11/2019 23:36

It makes me fairly stressed, but I don't know how to be anything else.

Someone has to be an optimist, if everyone constantly felt as I do the human race would have gone extinct years ago.

If you continue, others will do too, you are one of many and it's important to be one of many, because you are inspiring others.

BeMoreMagdalen · 01/11/2019 23:26

Cap, well, it's never not been about power and control. That hasn't changed and nor is it likely to.

But I'm a ridiculous jumble of misanthropic pessimistic cynicism and foolish optimism, so I will continue to punt for the good in the bulk of humanity to outweigh the viciously unthinking bad. It makes me fairly stressed, but I don't know how to be anything else.

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KatvonHostileExtremist · 01/11/2019 22:49

Stupid thing to do

Coldwatershock · 01/11/2019 22:45

Looks like the contact email is [email protected]

Coldwatershock · 01/11/2019 22:41

Sorry the letter's about Hoole but darned spellchecker changed it sorry

Coldwatershock · 01/11/2019 22:41

Great letter to the Jo Cox Foundation about Google. J think we should all follow suit

wingsoverscotland.com/a-letter-to-the-jo-cox-foundation/

CaptainKirksSpikeyGhost · 01/11/2019 22:27

Even the illusion of speaking for the public and caring for the people isn't being used any more.