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Janice Turner V Munroe Bergdorf NSPCC

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NeurotrashWarrior · 30/10/2019 17:13

IPSO ruling: Decision: No breach - after investigation

https://www.ipso.co.uk/rulings-and-resolution-statements/ruling/

Tweet:

https://twitter.com/victoriapeckham/status/1189585183604989953?s=21

Cheers Janice WineGin

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Matereality · 01/11/2019 08:44

Thanks Empress. Glad that R0 is OK.

EmpressLesbianInChair · 30/10/2019 22:09

R0’s fine, just a bit busy in RL so she’s taking a break.

ChattyLion · 30/10/2019 22:06

Flowers very happy for Janice. Hope she will have a big Gin Glitterball to celebrate and keep right on with her awesome writing.

Daughterofmabel · 30/10/2019 21:57

Excellent

Matereality · 30/10/2019 21:27

Where is R0? I saw Datun recently.

Great news Wine

ChickenyChick · 30/10/2019 20:51

OP, men just care less as this issue (and related issues) does not affect them.

Janice Turner is very brave, she must get a barrage of abuse and doxxing

HandsOffMyRights · 30/10/2019 20:49

Page two, PencilsInSpace (please tell me she's still on MN) mentions the IPSO.

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3541908-Regulatory-capture?pg=2&order=

Ah R0 (and Datun) were the ones who piqued my interest in FWR...

I miss R0's links and brilliance here.

KatvonHostileExtremist · 30/10/2019 20:48

It's just the screaming entitlement of Bergdorf.

BernardBlacksWineIceLolly · 30/10/2019 20:45

excellent news Wine

NeurotrashWarrior · 30/10/2019 20:42

True. Boundaries? What boundaries.

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EmpressLesbianInChair · 30/10/2019 20:39

I wonder if woke men or just men working in these organisations just simply don't have the same basic appropriateness awareness and the younger women are too naive or woke to?

The men don’t need it. And the young women haven’t yet realised they need it.

TheProdigalKittensReturn · 30/10/2019 20:32

Yay Janis! And also yay IPSO for refusing to be swayed.

StrangeLookingParasite · 30/10/2019 19:59

The columnist did not claim that the complainant had a fetish; she claimed that the complainant had undertaken “fetish shoots”, which did not appear to be in dispute, given that the complainant accepted that she had worn fetish items during fashion shoots.

Hah, her (extremely typical) attempt to twist what was said was an utter failure. So amusing.

NeurotrashWarrior · 30/10/2019 19:18

Yes talking mind boggling.

Although, I noticed on another thread that men were easily swayed by Jimmy Savil whereas the older women (mostly nurses) were the ones who saw through his shit.

I wonder if woke men or just men working in these organisations just simply don't have the same basic appropriateness awareness and the younger women are too naive or woke too?

Either way there's a worrying amount of not getting it right going on at the NSPCC

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NeurotrashWarrior · 30/10/2019 19:08

Hands, could you do a R0 and link to that thread please?

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NeurotrashWarrior · 30/10/2019 19:06

Isn't body positivity about accepting the body you have? Isn't what Bergdorf has done to Bergdorf's body the opposite of that?

Yes that's it. I've had a long day.

I'd like to say more but I can't phrase the truth it in a way that would be allowed to stand here. Cos like, the rules of mn misogyny etc.

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myfavouriterain · 30/10/2019 18:25

Excellent

Michelleoftheresistance · 30/10/2019 17:52

Well done Janice. Once again when tested it proves that the truth is not transphobic.

OldCrone · 30/10/2019 17:46

I also can't get my head around the "body positive" bit.

Isn't body positivity about accepting the body you have? Isn't what Bergdorf has done to Bergdorf's body the opposite of that?

HandsOffMyRights · 30/10/2019 17:43

Well done Janice.

Can somebody, who's been wading through the gender quagmire for longer than me, explain the history between the IPSO and Trans Media Watch?

I was reading the regulatory capture thread and there was mention of some TRAs lobbying the organisation hard regarding 'rules' relating to the reporting of issues relating to gender ID.

If the guidelines were already biased then this is even more of a victory for our Janice.

MissLawls · 30/10/2019 17:41

Confirms my view that Janice Turner is a serious journalist with real integrity and courage. The Times knows her value and, thankfully, is happy to stand with her

She's a good all-round egg all right. And she follows me on Twitter!

MissLawls · 30/10/2019 17:39

@FilthyBiscuit What's the Centre Parcs thing

There's a thread on it. They have kept changing facilities single sex as permitted under the Equality Act 2010.

MockersthefeMANist · 30/10/2019 17:38

In a world (country) where you have to pay a small fortune to go to an industrial tribunal, could not repeat vexatious complainants be slapped with a costs order?

SingingLily · 30/10/2019 17:38

Confirms my view that Janice Turner is a serious journalist with real integrity and courage. The Times knows her value and, thankfully, is happy to stand with her.

JulietakaIris · 30/10/2019 17:38

What's the Center Parcs thing?

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