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Eddie Izzard and the RBL

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Slightaggrandising · 29/10/2019 16:02

twitter.com/poppylegion/status/1187738701683666946?s=12

Hope the link works. Misgendering or not? And he's not getting the response they expected. I think someone at the RBL is choking on the woke.

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Tyrotoxicity · 30/10/2019 15:19

Link between army men and AGP - conjecture based on a few individuals I now - try to be a Real Man so join army because seen as super-macho; later realise for whatever reason that being a 2D manly caricature isn't working; flip to opposite stereotype and try to be a Real Woman cardboard cut out instead. Agp commonly starts around puberty/adolescence and you can't join the army that young; I surmise some men join the army because they've internalised sexist stereotypes and are using them for identity-formation purposes.

Eddie's a twonk, but nevertheless a useful demonstration of the principle that adherence to genderist ideology makes men infinitely less appealing.

NotTonightHalloween · 30/10/2019 08:19

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AbsintheFriends · 30/10/2019 08:14

The objections on the twitter feed seem to be on the grounds of him being so overtly political, rather than the way he presents (unless those people are being disingenuous - I suspect some of them are.)

Like pps I have a problem with Izzard's sense of entitlement to women's spaces and his natural inclination to place women's rights and needs as secondary to his own, but I don't have a problem with him supporting the RBL.

NotTonightHalloween · 30/10/2019 07:59

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HandsOffMyRights · 30/10/2019 07:35

For those asking about Eddie's gender identity:

Article here is which Eddie states: Even though I am transgender, I am one of the lesbians.

Eddie adds: It was a risky move coming out as what we used to call a transvestite

(Note that 'transvestite' is used under Stonewall's umbrella, so it is still in use).

www.bigissue.com/interviews/letter-to-my-younger-self/eddie-izzard-i-reclaimed-word-transvestite/

peachgreen · 29/10/2019 21:59

@VickyEadieofThigh He has stated publicly that he is happy to be addressed by either pronoun.

NotTonightHalloween · 29/10/2019 20:48

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Chloemol · 29/10/2019 20:36

I don’t get it, what was wrong with what Eddie said?

BeMoreMagdalen · 29/10/2019 20:22

I don't particularly care for Izzard wrt women's rights issues, but not really seeing why the objections to him fronting an appeal for the RBL are more significant to FWR than just airing a general dislike for him. I mean, you don't have to like him, I don't, but other than, I don't get this thread.

ArnoldWhatshisknickers · 29/10/2019 20:17

I don't really get this one. Izzard is a celebrity who supports a cause. He's probably a reasonable match for a military charity being a very manly man. A bit stereotypical maybe but can't see the fuss.

NotTonightHalloween · 29/10/2019 20:11

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GertiMJN · 29/10/2019 20:07

I'm a bit confused that I have been deleted for asking for clarification from those objecting to Eddie Izzard's appointment .....

Hey ho @MNHQ

Pota2 · 29/10/2019 20:03

If he’s a transwoman why does he use male pronouns?

I think that most of those objecting to him fronting the campaign just seem to be bigots. I can’t see why he’s more unsuitable than anyone else. I don’t wear the red poppy due to the pro-war angle the whole thing has acquired but I can’t see the objection to Eddie doing the advert.

EmpressLesbianInChair · 29/10/2019 19:55

I used to respect Eddie Izzard when he was a self proclaimed man in a dress. And he’s clearly done a lot for this cause.

But I dislike & despise him for his misogynist belief that liking makeup & heels means he has ‘girl genes’. That’s perpetuating exactly the regressive, old fashioned stereotypes that he used to argue against.

NotTonightHalloween · 29/10/2019 19:52

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NotTonightHalloween · 29/10/2019 19:47

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VickyEadieofThigh · 29/10/2019 19:47

I did not know, as I said earlier, that Izzard had shown a lot of support and stand corrected, quite willingly.

However, I have to challenge But for info, he identifies as transgender and uses both he and she pronouns

Not on his own website, he doesn't - strictly 'he' and 'his' on there.

GertiMJN · 29/10/2019 19:43

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NotTonightHalloween · 29/10/2019 19:29

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GertiMJN · 29/10/2019 19:24

I'm missing what the issue is specifically with regard to Eddie Izzard and the RBL?

FWIW I understand the wider issues people have.

NotTonightHalloween · 29/10/2019 19:24

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NotTonightHalloween · 29/10/2019 19:21

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Mamagin · 29/10/2019 19:16

If you are supporting the bigotry and hatred shown on that Twitter feed, then you should be ashamed of yourselves. I struggle with a lot of the transgender agenda, but I'm not sure what Eddie is supposed to have done? Apart from raising money for charity and being incredibly funny.
I always thought he was a transvestite anyway.

CranberriesChoccy · 29/10/2019 19:03

@Datun Thanks for those links & info. My use of cis in the trans actors thread was meant tongue-in-cheek of course, just to point out its absurdity. 😉