Detransitioner on 5Live this morning - massive failure of medical profession

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severnboring · 28/10/2019 13:26

Haven't seen this posted about already - this is really worth listening to, was on about 10:30-11am. Heard it when I was out and about, will try to find link now I'm in front of computer.

It's the same man who was in Sunday Times a couple of weeks ago - he was an alcoholic, secretly crossdressed, suffered depression and anxiety. He says clearly that it is a sexual fetish and he was never a woman. He was fed into the 'affirmation' system and ended up having his genitals removed. People insisted he was a woman.

He was allowed to speak for a long time and gave a detailed account of his interactions with doctors and therapists (NHS and private). This is what happens when troubled and suffering people are sent to professionals who are either terrified to utter a dissenting word, or who have a financial interest.

It always amazes me that men with these (very real) problems are somehow something to do with me and every other woman. Despite being clear that he was a) not a woman and b) not gay, he seems to have seen women as a whole and the gay community as a whole as therapeutic services. I don't blame this on him personally - this has been pushed by the medical profession - the concept of transsexualism and how to treat it (go and 'be a woman' and see how you get on, no need to consult women about this, they're all so lovely and will be happy to mend you) and also of course by the idea of 'LGBT' - he is a straight man who frequently referred to sex with women - why is a gay club the place for him?

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Michelleoftheresistance · 28/10/2019 13:50

Professionals are also currently living in a world where you get a storm of appalling harassment, doxing, accusations of hate crime, people getting arrested and campaigns to get you sacked if you do anything but exactly what the political lobby command. Tavistock whistle blowers have said how afraid they were to speak out when they were unhappy with what was going on. Social workers have, many have. The best interests of the person are being continually thrown under the wheels of a political agenda and people are being compelled to do it through fear.

I just re read that: I've become innured to it. This is fucking SCARY STUFF. Berlin in the bloody 30s would have recognised this kind of escalation and thinking.

Michelleoftheresistance · 28/10/2019 13:46

go and 'be a woman' and see how you get on, no need to consult women about this, they're all so lovely and will be happy to mend you

Yes it's amazing how many men assume women's purpose and role in all this, including expecting all women athletes and their sport to merely provide a lovely validation and mental health boost experience.

LGBT - yes, the issue there is that the T has successfully re branded LGBT from having anything to do with plain sexual orientation, hence the LGB alliance. (Evil bastards, actually wanting to just focus on sexual orientation.)

SonicVersusGynaephobia · 28/10/2019 13:39

he seems to have seen women as a whole and the gay community as a whole as therapeutic services. I don't blame this on him personally - this has been pushed by the medical profession - the concept of transsexualism and how to treat it ( go and 'be a woman' and see how you get on, no need to consult women about this, they're all so lovely and will be happy to mend you )

This was a bit of a lightbulb moment for me there.

If you can find a link I will listen to him later, thanks for the heads up.

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severnboring · 28/10/2019 13:31

www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m0009qst

38 mins in - Peter Benjamin

In the Times: www.thetimes.co.uk/article/gender-reassignment-im-man-enough-to-admit-that-it-was-a-mistake-g2nn79j9j

Perhaps a man explicitly saying that his penis is gone and can't be put back will be taken more seriously than the 1000s of teenage girls....

Really recommend listening to the whole interview, it is incredibly damning.

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