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"Gross, reductive naturalising maternal industrial complex"

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SunsetBeetch · 26/10/2019 23:38

Here's some TRA word salad for your Saturday night. Perhaps is will make sense if you've had a few drinks?

"Cis women confusing "erasure" with not being at the center of a discourse is fast becoming one of my pet peeves. Why not be inclusive of everyone who menstruates? There is no good reason. Obviously."

twitter.com/kate_manne/status/1187481570996830208?s=19

"Same when it comes to pregnancy and breast/chestfeeding. The truth is, we all gain when these activities aren't essentialized and made into part of some gross, reductive, naturalizing MIC (maternal industrial complex)."

twitter.com/kate_manne/status/1187483964677734400?s=19

"Being inclusive around all procreative activities is better for trans men and non-binary folks who participate in them; it's better for cis women who don't or can't; it's better for trans women who typically can't; and it's better for cis women who do, absent bad ideology."

twitter.com/kate_manne/status/1187483966137348096?s=19

"And, finally, it's surely better for adoptive parents, who are often genuinely erased in discourses of this kind."

twitter.com/kate_manne/status/1187484921142697985?s=19

Someone sounds very uncomfortable about normal female bodily functions.

I don't know how to.express this, I'm tired and a little drunk. But these people and the language they use, it's so...robotic? clinical? cold? Do you get what I mean?

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Redshoeblueshoe · 27/10/2019 00:12

I always confuse Erasure with the Pet Shop Boys
I think that proves I have had more than my fair share of Wine

Karabair · 27/10/2019 00:11

This woman wrote a book on misogyny. Obviously from self-examination and first hand experience.

Ineedacupofteadesperately · 27/10/2019 00:09

No-one's making them use the terms breastfeeding etc if they don't want to. Why take to twitter to moan that the nasty wims won't do what they're told and are determined to self-identify and self-describe? I find it faintly amusing.

Karabair · 27/10/2019 00:08

The term ‘chestfeeding’ was invented to ensure women know our place. No special terms for us. Our breasts are no longer to be spoken of. It’s chests all the way.

DickKerrLadies · 27/10/2019 00:06

...confusing "erasure" with not being at the center of a discourse is fast becoming one of my pet peeves

Ha! That's fucking hilarious. I really do love a bit of TRA hypocrisy.

Ineedacupofteadesperately · 27/10/2019 00:05

Lots of words that don't make sense to try and cover up the general sentiment of 'we don't like women doing things with their own bodies and we certainly don't want them talking about it in their own words'.

BreconBeBuggered · 27/10/2019 00:04

Somebody please tell me where the objection to the word 'breast' comes from? We all have breast tissue. Men, women, trans people and people of all or no gender. We can all get breast cancer. Am I being thick here? 'Chestfeeding' sounds like something medical to me.

Ineedacupofteadesperately · 27/10/2019 00:03

Yes, making milk for my babies was as close to feeling I have superhero magic powers as I'm ever going to get. It's completely amazing, natural and definitely as far from industry as it is possible to be.

Karabair · 26/10/2019 23:56

A bunch of words stuck together hoping she’ll sound like she’s done some analysis. ‘Gross’ gives away the misogyny and ‘industrial complex’ is idiotic given that breastfeeding is as far from industry as its possible to be, as mothers literally make their babies’ food in their own bodies, no factories or industry required.

AbsintheFriends · 26/10/2019 23:54

It's always 'folks' isn't it?

I picture them in little felted waistcoats and clogs, capering around with penny whistles. And pointing to the field of unicorns in the distance to distract attention from mean old reality.

EmpressLesbianInChair · 26/10/2019 23:51

Maternal industrial complex sounds like something out of Gilead.

Ineedacupofteadesperately · 26/10/2019 23:47

Yes the "gross" is a dead giveaway. Breastfeeding is in my opinion a really beautiful part of nature and it's something that only biological women do. That, like it or not, is the reality.

AnyOldPrion · 26/10/2019 23:42

I read the “gross, reductive” comment about pregnancy and breastfeeding and concluded whoever wrote it despises women.

Same old, same old.

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