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Woman sets person on fire in US

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Pota2 · 26/10/2019 08:28

I am quite concerned at how violent women seem to have gotten. I don’t know why people claim that men are the ones who commit most violent crime when there are ladies like this who act just as violently.

mobile.twitter.com/MiamiHerald/status/1187784905465454593

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TruthOnTrial · 27/10/2019 10:46

They need to report clearly so there can't be confusion, i.e.

'the woman suspect photographed in the picture'

Confused the bloody gaslighters

TruthOnTrial · 27/10/2019 10:43

On twitter they say woman set person on fire,but the picture link to the article says 'suspect sets woman on fire then may have gone on arson spree'

How is it permissible to deny the victim's sex in the reporting, yet be sure to accurately name the alleged perpetrator as whatever they prefer to be called?

Sex neutralising crime reports and stats. Denying men are violent. Theres been a few on MN traversing the board's recently causing disruption to some key threads and insults to women.

Woman sets person on fire in US
RiotAndAlarum · 27/10/2019 07:35

I'm not sure peak transing people with photos and ludicrously transparent "censorship" is necessarily gender critical. The subtext could easily be: "Look at us self-censoring ourselves in order not to get in trouble with the Powerful Liberals!!!! Help, help, I'm being oppressed!"

The Miami Herald's freely writing about the case (just as lots of other outlets were writing about it: it wasn't suppressed) and pretending it needed fo censor itself is either economic (clickbait) or political.

The left could call this out even while covering its arse politically with the message that this sort of thing endangers ordinary trans people (which it probably does. Encouraging a very-armed population to regard trans people as a threat is pretty damned monstrous).

Durgasarrow · 27/10/2019 02:31

we bitches sure are violent

Pota2 · 26/10/2019 20:01

Well I guess this falls under the umbrella of ‘things that never happen’ so they don’t want to get involved at all. They pretend it doesn’t happen instead. It doesn’t really fit the narrative of trans people being the most oppressed group in society, peacefully trying to just exist. I mean, sure, some of them are just peacefully trying to exist, but nobody has ever said that all transwomen are violent. Not all men are violent either. The point is that some TW are violent, same as some men are and they pose an equal threat to women that men do. Thinking you’re a woman does nothing to reduce the threat level, as the poor poor woman who was set on fire found out.

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youkiddingme · 26/10/2019 19:57

It's notable how often the comments with these things are GC now and the lack of trans ideology pile-ons. Have those who used to defend anything at all under the umbrella of trans realised it's a bad idea?
Am I wrong to view this with suspicion and wonder, what next?

TheProdigalKittensReturn · 26/10/2019 19:22

The framing of that article is so weird, with the photo of the suspect juxtaposed with the "woman sets fire to person" language. It makes it seem as if the person in the photo must be one who some unseen woman set fire to. If you're unfamiliar with this "debate" that's probably what you'd assume.

Meanwhile in reality the invisible woman is the victim, as it's becoming increasingly clear is usually the case.

Karabair · 26/10/2019 18:12

Die in a fire in action. I bet the woman he set light to doesn't thing he's a woman.

FWRLurker · 26/10/2019 17:34

I can’t help but wonder if a GC feminist wrote this and chose the pic purposely to insta-peak as many Miamians as possible.

ErrolTheDragon · 26/10/2019 16:13

Good to see some truthful reporting.
Maybe some states are more restrictive of that than others?

ScrimshawTheSecond · 26/10/2019 15:41

Hmm. NY post manages to completely avoid calling Mia a woman, but repeatedly refers to the victim as a woman:

nypost.com/2019/10/24/suspect-busted-for-lighting-woman-on-fire-in-florida-taco-bell/

Pota2 · 26/10/2019 15:32

Pushing the boundaries of what it means to be a woman

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HorseWithNoFucksToGive · 26/10/2019 15:25

Well, every single Twitter comment is calling them out on their lying and crap reporting!

Our Vicky is on the Twitter.

No doubt she will find time to convince everyone on there that this really is a woman and to accept without exception. Sort out the ratio problem too!

Apollo440 · 26/10/2019 15:16

#notourcrimes is a hashtag used to highlight these cases.

There is a website transcrimeuk.com/ which documents uk crime committed by transwomen and often reported as women's crime. I think there was some talk about rebranding as 'not our crime' as it was a simpler message that crime should be recorded by sex and seen to be less accusatory about transwomen in general.

allmywhat · 26/10/2019 15:10

This censorship of crime reporting seems like a bit of an own goal for the TRAs. Streisand effect type thing.

Looks like some "that never happens" cases get more publicity than they would get otherwise because people read the articles, go "wtf that's not a woman" and respond to it. I suspect newspapers have figured out that it's a great way to get clicks.

End result: people are more aware both that there are a lot of extremely violent transwomen out there, and that the trans movement is censoring newspapers. Or am I being optimistic?

Childrenofthestones · 26/10/2019 15:03

So the woman with the beard and penis set fire to another woman?

As it is mostly leftwingers pushing this dogma I do wonder how many swing votes Trump and the right pick up from all this lunacy

QuantumEntanglement · 26/10/2019 14:19

Loved this reply on the twitter thread:

“Not.A.Woman! If this man had a demon cat Halloween outfit on, would you write "A demon cat sets person on fire in Taco Bell"? What if he "identified as Batman"? FFS.”

FFS indeed.

IsadoraQuagmire · 26/10/2019 13:56

Well, every single Twitter comment is calling them out on their lying and crap reporting!

WrathofSIxFootSIxElfKlop · 26/10/2019 11:05

He, they.. that.
Is 'That' a suitable pronoun?

That is a man.

TheNaughtyStep · 26/10/2019 10:58

Is anyone anywhere keeping track of all these cases? Really need a searchable database of the evidence.

KatvonHostileExtremist · 26/10/2019 10:57

I'm really confused about the sex of this individual

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Pota2 · 26/10/2019 10:53

Yeah I agree that there seems to be some sort of statement made. I wonder how many things like this it will take for the TRAs to stop claiming it never happens.

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WrathofSIxFootSIxElfKlop · 26/10/2019 10:51

Unadulterated photographs are GC.

What a strange sentence I've just said there.

Aka truth.

Karabair · 26/10/2019 10:51

Are the reporters trying to make a subtle point? They’re certainly highlighting the absurdities.

Pota2 · 26/10/2019 10:36

TheVanguardSix the title of the thread was sort of deliberate to demonstrate how ridiculous this all is. I am in no doubt or confusion that this person is a man.

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