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Men have periods too

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PurpleFrames · 25/10/2019 19:19

I don't know about anyone else- but not only does this not make sense. Why are activists using their wee ones to make these stupid statements. Please say I'm not the only one?

Men have periods too
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BelaLug0si · 26/10/2019 16:27

The NHS has creaking IT that was invented before self-identification became a thing. Unfortunately it isn't sufficiently flexible to be able to differentiate between biological women and non-bio. The GP can send a request through to the screening database and get the transwoman ceased from cervical screening. Hopefully that is what is happening.
In terms of the transmen, HCPs are trying to ensure that people have screening they're entitled to, regardless of anything else. Whilst I have personal opinions about gender identity, my main concern is helping to ensure people have the screening appropriately, if they want it.

Regarding the screening of younger women - the point being there have been studies of whether the changes resolve on their own. Most of them do. A consequence of earlier screening is they get into the investigation system, with repeated trips to colposcopy. This ups the probability of treatment at an early age, which many colposcopists now try to avoid.

ImFineThankYouSusan · 26/10/2019 11:57

r/wokekids

PurpleFrames · 26/10/2019 10:34

@Sadie789 exactly

@TowelNumber42 surprisingly well they are more able to conceptualise due to the nature of the course i think. From a recent discussion there was more fear of male violence than concerns around lack of opportunity

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Twooter · 26/10/2019 09:27

I know the leaflets above are just sent out to women, but it doesn’t mention women at all, so I can imagine poorly educated people nagging their partners or adult sons to try to get tested.

DickKerrLadies · 26/10/2019 08:57

That sentence never ends with "...so that's why we're campaigning to get sanitary bins in men's toilets."

It's as if it's just meaningless virtue-signalling.

WhatsInAName19 · 26/10/2019 08:15

@BelaLug0si

When a tranman's medical records are changed, this is supposed to include explaining that the GP and transman are now jointly responsible for ensuring that the person attends for cervical screening if appropriate. The GP has to contact the transman with results in writing.
So acknowledging the fallacy of "transmen are men" then really.

Transwomen should ignore cervical screening invitations
What a waste of resources on sending pointless reminders. And I'm absolutely positive that all transwomen will decline the opportunity to have an oh-so-validating intimate female medical examination...

I know that abnormal cell changes often revert back to normal without treatment in younger women, but I think it's naive not to accept that budgets are a factor. If the NHS had unlimited funds I'd like to think that young women would be screened and monitored closely to ensure that any abnormal results do resolve themselves, and treating those women who need it. Besides the point really, because I'm sure nobody is going to argue that the NHS has money to waste.

PositiveVibez · 26/10/2019 07:32

Some women who identify as men, have periods too

There, fixed that for you.

TowelNumber42 · 26/10/2019 06:59

How does challenging the students on this go down in your university?

SnuggyBuggy · 26/10/2019 06:54

Isn't that just going to make older boys worry that they might be one of the men to have periods?

Sadie789 · 26/10/2019 03:28

What gets me is if these types of “influencer” are so solid in their beliefs and confident of their views then why disable comments on the post?

Gingerkittykat · 26/10/2019 02:53

I always take advice on menstruation from pre schoolers.

PurpleFrames · 25/10/2019 23:54

@midcenturylegs I thought that too!

@AlunWynsKnee it's not photoshop it's a screenshot of an Instagram story. The story originated from a gender focused therapist. I follow someone who reshaped it for a better way of describing it.

@drum123 see above ^

@andannabegins yep it's legit thanks for backing me up

@CoachBombay I feel you.

I work PT in a university and tutors are very concerned in our dept anyway about the erasure of women and self id in particular. Such that they now challenge the thought vein in classes

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BelaLug0si · 25/10/2019 23:45

@WhatsInAName19
When a tranman's medical records are changed, this is supposed to include explaining that the GP and transman are now jointly responsible for ensuring that the person attends for cervical screening if appropriate. The GP has to contact the transman with results in writing.
Transwomen should ignore cervical screening invitations.
See the new invitation leaflets here

Regarding your point that the NHS doesn't screen under 25 y/o because of cost. That's not the case - it's because screening younger age groups is not specific enough and there is a greater risk of overtreatment compared to the number of cancers that would be detected.

Creepster · 25/10/2019 23:37

In addition to females not getting the screening they need because of the beliefs they have been taught I am concerned by young males learning and believing that the life threatening drug side effects they can experience are menstruation symptoms.

TheProdigalKittensReturn · 25/10/2019 23:26

One may particularly look forward to explaining to a male toddler that it's normal and OK that blood comes out of mummy's genitals once a month but if blood is coming out of his genitals then that's cause for concern without being able to state that he and mummy are not the same sex. Extra points for trying to explain that zie's sex will remain unknown until zie decides and how the aformentioned genital bleeding is in no way connected to that.

CoachBombay · 25/10/2019 23:25

Errol my son from a young age and still low at 5 follows me in to the toilet. The only way I could explain menstruation to a 3/4 year was to say "it's because mummy is a woman" 🤷🏻‍♀️ beat I could come up with at shirt notice.

I genuinely think if someone told him men could have periods he would a) brandish me a liar and happily tell me so. b) start asking me when he's going to start bleeding like mummy.

I mean why are we as a society confusing children so much? No wonder children's mental health is a crisis issues. Half of them are confused, anxious and unsure of the world we live on because let's face it the majority of society are unsure. They, the, it, he, her...Daniel form accounts is now Deborah on a Tuesday but Daniel on a Friday, is a non binary CrossFitting vegan who identified as pan sexual. 🤯

ErrolTheDragon · 25/10/2019 23:14

It's bad enough when the cat follows you in there...

The dog's worse - he's basically a devoted battering ram.Hmm

The thing is, when your small, insatiably curious, kid follows you in (or of necessity when out of the house is wedged in a cubicle with you) how the heck does anyone explain the blood sensibly without some clue that it's about being a mummy?

Michelleoftheresistance · 25/10/2019 23:09

And how lovely to see a toddler being exploited to further a political agenda.

Nothing dodgy about that at all.

Next week: a smiling baby holding a sign stating Boris Johnson Is Lovely And Right All The Time. If I can Get That, So Can You!

BeMoreMagdalen · 25/10/2019 23:03

Yeah, I've seen parents posting pics of their kids holding verses out of Proverbs in the King James Version of the bible. Doesn't mean a) the bible is true or b) the kid has any investment in or understanding of the words they are holding up to please their parent at all.

CoachBombay · 25/10/2019 22:48

Stop the world, I'm ready to get off now. I'm sick to the back teeth of the erosion of women fro. Society and popular culture.

What are we to become? "Genetic birthing vessel with XX chromosome" and numbered like fucking cattle whilst Trevor dressed in a froc gives us out daily feed of overnight oats.

I'm done. Literally done. Fuck it.

TheProdigalKittensReturn · 25/10/2019 22:36

Er...any mother whose kid wouldn't let them use the loo in peace?

It's bad enough when the cat follows you in there...

ErrolTheDragon · 25/10/2019 22:14

I can't imagine why anyone would be discussing periods with a toddler other than in an attempt to get an early start on the indoctrination.

Er...any mother whose kid wouldn't let them use the loo in peace?Grin

Sure, kids who can't yet read can have a basic idea of what a period is. What takes indoctrination is to get them to think it's anyone except women who have them - they're very good at correct categorisation IME. I can't imagine why anyone would be discussing periods with a toddler other than in an attempt to get an early start on the indoctrination.

andannabegins · 25/10/2019 22:00

Oh and the words haven't been changed she did actually post that!

Tyrotoxicity · 25/10/2019 21:52

Oh ffs autocorrect. Bollocks, not blocks!

Tyrotoxicity · 25/10/2019 21:51

I'm all for a game of Plausible Lies with kids, but unless you tell them it was all blocks shortly afterwards then it's just indoctrination.

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