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Well done, Hornsey and Wood Green CLP!!

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cwg1 · 25/10/2019 15:36

Constituency Labour Party approves motion supporting women's rights and WPUK. Respectful of trans issues (though the lobby is claiming otherwise...) Vote was 46 to 29, so a clear majority.

I can't easily make links, but see Twitter.

Thank you, Hornsey and Wood Green!!

Bit of good news for us all.

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RuffleCrow · 26/10/2019 14:48

Well done! great news Smile

RadicalStitch · 26/10/2019 14:47

Public presentation not presents!

RadicalStitch · 26/10/2019 14:46

@ApplejackCriesOnTheInside You're definitely right as far as her public presents is concerned, but personally I think she's on our side of the fence. Very frustrating. The entirety of the young labour group would leave if she came out.

@teawamutu send it to the woman's officer, or even better, all the branch women's officers. Lots won't be on board, but you only need one. Good luck.

MrGsFancyNewVagina · 26/10/2019 14:45

That’s what we needed. We needed just ONE council to be brave enough to support women. Hopefully courage will be contagious.

I want to thank each and every woman and man who has been brave enough to speak out in support of women’s safety. Whether it’s online, at meetings, in work, chatting in the corner shop, mentioning a story/article to the post person. Even mentioning the attack on women’s safety, rights and dignity to ONE person, starts a trickle, that leads to people in power finding their courage.

teawamutu · 26/10/2019 14:41

I'm going to cc this resolution to my local Labour Party. If they pass it I might be able to see my way to voting Labour again.

ApplejackCriesOnTheInside · 26/10/2019 14:35

I'm glad she's prepared to engage, if that's your experience @RadicalStitch. Suspect where she sits is On The Fence Grin

RadicalStitch · 26/10/2019 09:58

@ApplejackCriesOnTheInside I haven't heard that Catherine West is noisily TWAW. If she was, she isn't now. Not absolutely certain where she sits but I believe she understands the GC arguments. I have spoken to her about this at her surgeries twice.
At the LP meeting where this motion was passed, the term 'sex based rights' was characterised by the opposition as being transphobic. I found that particularly irksome that even mention of sex based rights is a red flag to them.

ChattyLion · 26/10/2019 05:03

Thank you for posting that entirely reasonable, sensible, absolutely unobjectionable resolution here and on Twitter so that everyone can see what it says. Zero transphobia in there but some people seem to very very strongly object to the distinct lack of misogynistic content. Thank you to everyone in that CLP that got it passed. Flowers

CLPs everywhere should adopt this now in solidarity with women’s rights and good community relations.

Helpfully those self-important Young Labour misogynists trying to whip up hatred of the ‘vile transphobes’ Hmm have also pointed out in their tweet, that this one is the biggest CLP in the country. So that makes this even more of an excellent achievement. Now let’s see all the other CLPs follow suit.

teawamutu · 25/10/2019 23:17

That twitter thread is bloody awesome. Jonny should feel rather honoured to have his arse handed to him by Jane Clare Jones but sadly I suspect it was wasted on him.

I don't recognise a lot of the names. This is starting to get a bit of traction, isn't it?

Apollo440 · 25/10/2019 21:15

My goodness how they squeal. I honestly think they will implode once everyone ignores them and asks questions.

AnotherLass · 25/10/2019 19:59

Brilliant Grin

cwg1 · 25/10/2019 19:45

Many thanks for links and screen shots.

Verbs and adjectives?? Tut, tut - there's only one part of speech that matters Grin

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MockersthefeMANist · 25/10/2019 19:23

All the verbs and adjectives in the resolution seem innocuous. So it appears to be the mention of WPUK by name that gets them all a-tizzy.

ApplejackCriesOnTheInside · 25/10/2019 19:21

Hornsey and Wood Green MP Catherine West is noisily TWAW, as was her Lib Dem predecessor Lynn Featherstone, so it's interesting to see some pushback from the CLP. Tottenham (next door, MP David Lammy who IIRC was the minister in charge of the GRA) was the CLP whose delegates were publicly split on this issue at conference - gender critical delegate spoke from the floor then young woke bloke shrieked about transphobia from the platform.

thirdfiddle · 25/10/2019 18:46

Ah, found it now. It's a sensible and extremely mild proposal. Not GC as such, just saying women have the right to talk and organise. Damn right they do. The young labour woke club are not getting much sympathy on twitter are they?

OkayGoooouuuuuullllll · 25/10/2019 18:46

The stamping of feet on that twitter thread is something to behold.

stumbledin · 25/10/2019 18:42

twitter.com/crouchendlabour/status/1187121264944648192

Is this the same one, seems to be from a couple of days ago.

BernardBlacksWineIceLolly · 25/10/2019 18:27

what a fantastic motion, balanced, sympathetic and constructive

anyone who has an issue with that is really not on the level

jackiebrisset · 25/10/2019 18:24

Tottenham CLP claims the resolution makes them "unsafe" and Labour students (is this Madigan?) asserts they they intend to overrule a democratic vote and instead impose their will and get their own way regardless of what the majority wants.

Well done, Hornsey and Wood Green CLP!!
Well done, Hornsey and Wood Green CLP!!
jackiebrisset · 25/10/2019 18:22

THE RESOLUTION

Well done, Hornsey and Wood Green CLP!!
BernardBlacksWineIceLolly · 25/10/2019 18:08

this is brilliant. so good to see people waking up and realising they can't let this slide

Siameasy · 25/10/2019 17:41

Cor that really is something-a democratic process asking simply for discussion is met with such vitriol. “No debate” in action. So many are being peaked now.

MonnaLIza · 25/10/2019 17:06

:)

Fraggling · 25/10/2019 17:00

'we were told that male bodies in women's spaces endangers women- this is transphobia'

Erm.