Well done, Hornsey and Wood Green CLP!!

It’s all about saying the right thing. Appearing to think pure thoughts. Being nice being nice kind guilty sorry

I feel like this is the problem with the Labour Party generally at the moment, not just on this issue. They would throw anyone under the bus if they thought it would make them look good.

When it comes to things which actually
help women they don't give a fuck, and especially if that means a man won't get what he wants. Misogynistic 'hate' is so common that it doesn't even register with these people, who are too busy screeching about 'transphobia' to hear anyway. As long as they are saying the right things and look woke, women can fuck off as far as they are concerned.

Yes, this exactly.

How the fuck do people think their politics are all woke and righteous and at the same time, they vilify women’s rights organisations?!

Because they are the 'fun' kind of feminists. They go for the virtue signalling easy wins such as #metoo hashtags and standing in front of neon signs which say 'well behaved women don't make history', and how empowering it is to have sex with multiple men a day for a few quid.

When it comes to things which actually
help women they don't give a fuck, and especially if that means a man won't get what he wants. Misogynistic 'hate' is so common that it doesn't even register with these people, who are too busy screeching about 'transphobia' to hear anyway. As long as they are saying the right things and look woke, women can fuck off as far as they are concerned.

Owen Jones has signed that letter the misogynistic little prick.

Cos woke politics is often (apart from racism) about things being -phobic and there is no woman-phobic to latch onto
They don’t care about women as many of them are fully bought into the sex positive man pleasing type of feminism
They are also big fans of be nice and safe spaces (ie no one disagreeing with them)apart from safe spaces for women at which point it becomes transphobic and round we go again
It’s all about saying the right thing. Appearing to think pure thoughts. Being nice being nice kind guilty sorry etc etc

How the fuck do people think their politics are all woke and righteous and at the same time, they vilify women’s rights organisations?!

So WPUK is transphobic. End of. A no debate issue seemingly...

docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSfb0_wA_hDX-iq5scn-L2OqrnwkfpklSptSQFJFovRJMizcQw/viewform

Open Letter In Support Of Trans Labour Members

We are members of the Labour Party expressing solidarity with trans people in the face of hate from the media and by anti-trans groups in the UK. We recognise that the UK has recently experienced a week of coordinated pernicious attacks on trans people, including the launching of the execrable LGB Alliance and a motion passed at Hornsey & Wood Green General Meeting in support of Womans Place UK. The failure of the Labour Party on this issue is a deep wound to the principles of equality the Party is supposed to stand for.

Let us be under no illusions. The motion passed at Hornsey & Wood Green supports a transphobic organisation:

By the way - it wasn't Tottenham CLP posting that tweet - it was Tottenham Young Labour. There's a difference!

@RadicalStitch - tbh I don't know why I'm being so kind to CW right now (aka sitting on the fence) .. I was so disappointed when I got her reply at the time.

@Chiochan it was bonkers wasn't it?!

@Charley50 yes
I sent her a statement from Miranda Yardley saying the word 'transexual' is important and not outdated.

I diden't notice how the chairs voted. (I was totally distracted by a woman who had walked out when people were speaking in favour of the motion muttering 'transphobia', who then, when hands were up being counted, was making a huge show of, ostensively counting the votes, but was actually confusing the person who had actually been asked to count the votes. tbf I think she was making a play to get the votes in favour undercounted. I dont think she succeded).

Radical you're right. Did you get the same letter?

@Charley50 if that's the letter I think it is, it's a masterclass in fence sitting.

Actually even back then Catherine West was talking about the impact on women.

@Chiochan Was wondering how the chairs had voted, but just being nosy. Don't blame you.

I think Catherine West was quite TWAW last November, see image, part of her reply to me about the proposed changes to the GRA, but a lot has changed since then, so maybe she is more aware of the real issues.

That EDM is daft- includes proposing bridging prescriptions from GPs before people get into specialist services

I see that only 37 MPs signed it and 2 of them have withdrawn so really not a great deal of MPs supporting it fortunately. Hopefully this particular MP has learnt a bit more about it all now and has changed her views...

@RadicalStitch Know how me and my mates voted
I dont really want to get in to what anyone else did, even if I noticed which I probably diden't.
Great result though. I really hope other CLPs will take this motion up, and then maybe leadership might actually sit up and engage their brains. (we can hope)

Complete aside... teawamutu you've just brought me up short. I always assumed you were in NZ!

That is really encouraging. Well done Hornsey and Wood Green CLP!

Early Day Motion from 2017 - CW is a signatory though of course her views may have changed since.

@Chiochan did you see how people voted? Can you DM me?

I dont think Catherine West is TWAW at all, though it could be a while before she says it publicly.
Also at the meeting it was clear the leader of the council is also GC. I was sat near him and watched who he clapped and, tellingly, who he diden't and it was obvious he does not buy this crap for a second.

Now all we need is for them to have the guts to actually come out and say it.

I'm going to cc this resolution to my local Labour Party. If they pass it I might be able to see my way to voting Labour again.

Ooh I like this idea.

Good shout, thanks Radical. Will report back.