Who decided this was a step in the right direction?

As an aside my spellcheck is objecting to transmen.

My phone does the same with both 'transwoman/women' and 'transman/men'. Cynic that I am, I suspect this is yet more organisational capture and that whoever is responsible for programming the dictionary at Apple (in my case) has been persuaded that autocorrect should kick in to change 'transman' to 'trans man' et alia. TRAs object to the words being joined as it's all part of the 'TWAW/TMAM' language creep. If we have to use the word 'trans' at all, and they would much rather we didn't because of course TWAW/TMAM and therefore don't need it, then as they see it, it should be a separate descriptor in the same way we'd refer to a 'black woman' or a 'tall man'.

If any transmen actually upset and triggered by the symbol they have my utmost sympathy. I would like to see them supported and hope they can be offered solutions including long acting contraceptives to alleviate their distress.

I see no reason for the remaining 99.9 % of women on the planet to be affected.

Of course it's probably not the TMs that are distressed, but another group looking for validation.

As an aside my spellcheck is objecting to transmen. Are they not worthy?

I'm willing to give it a go. I still think there will come a point where one of the best ways to resist this bullshit is for biological women to just proclaim their TM status en masse, while carrying on as normal. If it's just a case of change the word alone to shift one's status and the notice society takes (or to prove how utterly misogynistically stupid that is) then it's a no brainer.

can’t we all call in to P&G proclaiming to be TM and say we don’t like the scented pads.

Worth a try ... I don't know what scent they use but I assume it's meant to be 'feminine'?

NRTFT but, can’t we all call in to P&G proclaiming to be TM and say we don’t like the scented pads.
We can then get rid of those stinky items- cub quicker than us as mere women.....
Also, who thought we needed scented pads anyway? Never understood that.

Brain waves? Do they think we have microwaves in place of our heads? But, like, delicate feminine ones, with false eyelashes on?

Womens brain waves are all the same?
Our brains are all the same?
Our thought processes, our internal lives?
Sexist fuckery.

Of course many men don't think women have internal lives or individual personalities as we are 3d caricatures that can be separated into types. Sexy. Mumsy. Bitchy. Etc

Brain waves? 😂

I refuse to believe the packaging of a sanity product with a female symbol on it would be more reminding of the fact you are female than actually having a the period which requires the use of said product.

And why can't they just buy one of the many other non symboled brands available if the female symbol is so triggering?

Bloody hell Upfield that's appalling.

Ok, I'm very, very up for reusable wear, this is where I work on finding out about.

I think the thing I am increasingly most angry about is being expected to pretend that someone isn't female because they say they aren't. I am very sympathetic that there are some people born female who don't want to call themselves women, who prefer to call themselves men, but when it goes this far I'm forced to the discourtesy of saying no. My limit is here. I'm sorry, but this is not real. You are still female, and I'm not willing to throw 51% of the population under the bus to enable you personally so that you don't have to face that reality. Female is a fact, not a choice, and there's a point this becomes profoundly selfish.

Have you seen the Twitter hastag #MyAlwaysExperience that's been trending the past few days? Women all over Africa complaining about how Always towels burn their skin off. They're saying that Africa is given substandard products, but other threads on here show that women in the West also have the same problem and hate the effect the unnecessarily scented products have. Might be worth joining in and pointing out how women in their masses can complain about this but aren't listened to, yet one trans man complains and hey presto!
OrchidintheSun I also hate the use of 'folk' and 'y'all' the TRA's use, it's such a transparent attempt to make transgenderism appear that it's something that's always been around in the same form it is today, just another rewrite of history and putting a friendly face on bodily mutilation, medication and capitulation to an sexist ideology. Gawd, is there nothing about this movement that isn't cult-like and rapey.

SarahConnorFem I can’t speak up about this sort of thing on FB because I could lose my job if someone maliciously-minded reported it to my employer because they’ve been captured by the Woke Stasi (I don’t have my employer’s name on my profile but some FB friends do know where I work - ex-colleagues who know where I moved on to, a handful of others). I’d like to think they wouldn’t but it’s not a risk I’m prepared to take. Some of your friends may be in the same position.

(And yes, it drives me up the fucking wall that speaking up for biology, facts and women’s rights could be a sackable offence and I wish it weren’t so - but with a disabled DH and a mortgage to pay I stick to anonymised forums to vent my wrath.)

Fraggling that’s not a rant at all. I am really sorry that your kids are having to deal with that crap. It’s appalling.

Why is the word 'folk' used so often when discussing these issues? It really gets on my tits.

Always are idiots. Still, as we have discussed on other threads, Always scented pads give vaginas thrush so people who use the word 'folk' are welcome to them. V environmentally unfriendly to boot

10 to 1 think this is bullshit.

This is going to give me the kick up the arse I need to move to reusable period wear.

I'm so glad that getting your first period at age just turned 10 as my daughters did and the developing body to go with it so men start looking at 10 FFS 10, has been deemed SPARKLY AND GLITTERY.

These people are utterly self obsessed and totally lacking in any care or bother about what periods really mean for girls all over the world. Old enough. Ready for marriage. Big enough to leer at. Banished while menstruating to somewhere freezing cold. Fertile and forced to birth in many countries if they are raped.

This is deliberate. The compartmentalising of our biological functions (sex) in order to minimise the consequences in a world that sexualises and oppresses women and girls, in order to remove the ability to see the whole picture.

Well my 2 menstruators get leered at my men even though they are so young, because periods come with female puberty meaning hips breasts and in the uk this means many men feel that its their right to stare and look up and down without a second thought for the person on the receiving end. How old they are, how it makes them feel. It is a right of men, over our girls.

Of course some (lees) tell us street harrassment is empowering. And if we and our daughters don't like it we are spoiling other peoples fun.

All of this, all of it is about removing our ability to name ourselves, our issues, to see the whole picture.

Sorry for rant am angry this morning.

Red FUCKING glitter.

Women have had to learn to turn a blind eye and ignore sexism and misogyny for ever.

Transmen need to learn that it's part of being born female to have to deal with packaging you don't like.

All roads appear to direct to men being the default.

Fuck. Off.

What the fuck is with the glitter?

I would imagine that a large proportion of the Heart Radio demographic wouldn't be on board with this sort of thing - not really 'woke, queer theory' types....

So the female symbol is officially outlawed.

Patriarchy is gonna patriarchy some how...

I shared the Heart post on my Facebook because I was that infuriated by it and there was virtual tumbleweed. I can't believe so few women i know have little or no opinion on the erasure of Womanhood to appease a handful of women who have REJECTED womanhood. I'm baffled by the silence. We have every right to object to this erasure. I don't care if it's not PC. Wish more women would speak up.