Man tricks university into giving him a law degree by pretending to have transitioned

I'm sure universities would absolutely not ask the same questions once the T- word was mentioned. Rigour goes out of the window to avoid offence or reputational damage in terms of being seen as non-woke. I work in one...

I wonder if the University would have been so accommodating if Mr Nathan Hogg had tried to impersonate a male graduate, by claiming just to have changed his name?

What we do not know from the press reports (the original seems to have been in the Evening Chronicle) is why Nathan Hogg chose to impersonate that particular female graduate.

www.chroniclelive.co.uk/news/north-east-news/nathan-hogg-durham-university-court-17102835

Was it just convenience? That she just happened to have the degree he wanted and enough public info on Linked In to cobble an alias together? Or did she happen also to be a match for his date of birth and place of birth registration, ie. the only info apart from a person's name that is shown on a UK Short Form Birth Certificate?

This is making me a bit jittery for yet another reason about the "streamlined, simplified admin procedure" to obtain a GRC as per proposed GRA reforms. I do not recall seeing any details of how the "simplified admin procedure" with no "medical gatekeeping" would operate or what proof would be required of identity and "transition" or "proposed transition". Was anything ever published?

If we are to believe the Lawyering Golfer, obtaining a GRC is already a cheap, quick and legal way to get a revised birth certificate with a new name and a new "legal sex":

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3717890-Mumsnet-to-argue-in-court-that-TWAM?msgid=90830972

Genuine question: Exactly how much easier is the Government proposing to make it for the likes of Nathan Hogg, or someone with much worse intentions, to go through an official process that "proves" they are the individual they are impersonating, ie. backed up by a genuine, GRC-obtained Birth Certificate?

Of course, we know this would never happen - just like the Nathan Hogg case would never happen - but if it does become ridiculously easy then it's a dead cert that some pycho will find a "match" with someone who has the same birth date recorded in the same Registration District, then get a GRC and new birth certificate in their target's name.

Do you have any sources for that, GrumpyHoonMain?

As for Durham reviewing its policies, yes, of course it should, but it's worth saying that a law (GRA) which is hard to implement and is more than a little vulnerable to user error is a bad law!

Trans identity fraud attempts are on the rise. Sounds like Durham needs to review it’s policies here

No one will bother unless it is exploited to the extent it becomes unworkable, makes a mockery and causes embarrassment, or it costs a lot of money somewhere....…….

Fake lawyer will cause a bit of trouble, surely. (Mind you, this fraudster won't have done the followup to that law degree, or have got a training contract, so thankfully there should still have been some barriers in his way).

If you create a system full of gaping loopholes, the naice will hold back and the exploiters will go for it.

No one will bother unless it is exploited to the extent it becomes unworkable, makes a mockery and causes embarrassment, or it costs a lot of money somewhere....…….

You don't even have to be dead now! www.businessdictionary.com/definition/Day-of-the-Jackal-fraud.html

Ha, I was just thinking about Day of the Jackal!

The Day of the Jackass?

Well I for one am shocked.

It would never have occurred to me that an ideology which is based on lying about who you are could be used by people who wish to lie about who they are.

FFS.

And next we'll have male sexual offenders taking their dicks into women's prisons.
Oh wait, thats already happened.

Oh you nasty meanies! If you read the article you would see that he only ddI it because he was depressed and wanted to feel better. Surely having your identity stolen and your degree appropriated is a small price to play to make a man feel better?

Why can’t you all just be nice ?

The woman – who is not trans

So 'woman' is not enough? So 'woman' is not clear?

So according to trans ideology women are good for stealing body parts from, sporting and academic achievements, and threatening with violence if we don't comply enthusiastically.

I'm glad I've caught up.

They will be stealing wombs next.

You’re a wee bit late. They’re already talking about the —fantasy— of wombs being taken from the poor confused young women who are transing and putting them into the males. Females will always have our uses....for spare parts.

They only found out because the woman in question happened to ask for a reference!

What about the ones who haven't asked for a reference? Do they know about them?

They will be stealing wombs next.

Can't make it as men, figure they will just have to usurp women. They don't even have to do dick.

They only found out because the woman in question happened to ask for a reference!

Christ. Identity fraud coming your way soon, wims.

This never happens

I wonder where the woman with the willy shall do community service? Women’s Aid, female only Spa,”? The options are endless for the woman with a willy. 🤷🏻‍♀️

The most remarkable thing here is that this case of a man using the notion of unquestioned self ID to steal from a woman is being reported by Pink News.

Yes, this is a little shocking to me, I have to admit. PN is basically admitting that the 'this never happens' brigade are...not telling the truth! This is potentially 'big news' given PNs stance in the past about how absolutely no way will self ID ever ever be abused.

The most remarkable thing here is that this case of a man using the notion of unquestioned self ID to steal from a woman is being reported by Pink News.

There are no trans people involved in this incident. Self ID is being used (as women predicted) by nefarious men.

He correctly spotted that people have been trained to put their brains to one side when dealing with trans issues.

I'm almost inclined to believe he made the attempt to prove a point...

What was the "very convincing document", an A4 piece of paper with "I was her and now am me, don't you dare ask for more proof or I'll sic Twitter on you" printed on it?

How often will this happen before there's an acceptance that it happens?