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"the most vulnerable people in our society"

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Karabair · 20/10/2019 18:55

Saw this on phrase on Twitter by someone telling women not to notice that TRAs had nailed a dead rat to a rape crisis centre.

For a lot of women the so-called vulnerability of MTF trans seems to be their justification for completely ignoring women's needs, interests and of course, oppression. Apparently women and girls aren't vulnerable, whilst MTF trans are. Two of us die at the hands of men every week, countless women and girls are raped and sexually abused by men more powerful than us - we are, sadly, vulnerable, it's a fact of life at the moment, but it doesn't count.

Why are MTF trans seen as more vulnerable than oppressed people, especially women? Where does that thinking come from?

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Pota2 · 20/10/2019 20:08

Agree re trans children, who are indeed very vulnerable.

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Karabair · 20/10/2019 20:07

Because men are saying it. Simples.

Hahahaha, yes. It's weird to see female socialisation in action, when being obedient to men means denying the reality that is all around us.

Women are so vulnerable to male violence, we literally have almost no protection apart from not being in the same vicinity as a violent predatory man. Yet that real vulnerablity counts for nothing with the woke.

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RuffleCrow · 20/10/2019 20:04

Anyone using 'vulnerability' as a teflon coating is telling us all we need to know about them. - That's not how vulnerability works.

Birdsfoottrefoil · 20/10/2019 20:03

‘Trans’ children are incredibly vulnerable - they are prey to all sorts.

BadgertheBodger · 20/10/2019 20:03

It’s designed to appeal to women’s socialisation to be kind, to be nice. To not make a fuss as our boundaries are shat upon.

GetbusywiththeFizzee · 20/10/2019 20:02

Why are MTF trans seen as more vulnerable than oppressed people, especially women? Where does that thinking come from?

Because men are saying it. Simples.

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Karabair · 20/10/2019 19:57

I struggle to see Jane Fae or Rachel MacKinnon as vulnerable for example.

I feel there's a lot of projection going on.

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TemporaryPermanent · 20/10/2019 19:54

I think people with mental health problems who dont find it easy to fit social norms are indeed very vulnerable. I dont have a problem with saying that. It doesn't mean they are automatically physically weak though. More that they are vulnerable to exploitation or to finding themselves in situations they didn't predict.

I think disabled people generally, especially people with learning disabilities, are the most vulnerable of all.

Women are vulnerable due to physical weakness. I'm a big strong lass but any male aged under about 80 could knock me out if they wanted to.

Pota2 · 20/10/2019 19:44

Was just reading that same thread! Yes, it’s one of those sayings that has now gained such force that it’s accepted as universal truth. I also think it’s so interesting how it’s transwomen and not transmen who are seen as the most vulnerable, despite the former having grown up male and with the privileges that confers.
Basically it’s a myth, although I accept that many trans people are vulnerable due to MH conditions they often have in addition to gender dysphoria. But there isn’t any evidence of a higher murder rate or higher rate of assaults.

NeurotrashWarrior · 20/10/2019 19:38

I think a lot of it comes from the US, but the whole 'check your privilege' movement have latched onto it.

It's also a lib fem thing.

HorseWithNoFucksToGive · 20/10/2019 19:00

Well, saying it (over and over again) doesn't make it true.

I doubt that people in the real world believe that putting on a frock makes it so.