Always (sanitary towells) forced to remove Venus logo

Bit still, the fact remains that if you are having periods then you are categorically female regardless of anything else. Therefore the female symbol is totally appropriate.

Well I can’t boycott Always because I no longer need them but just looked at some of Proctor & Gamble’s other brands and I’ll be boycotting the fuck outta:

Pantene
Swiffer
Dawn
Olay
Tide...the list goes on and on and fucking on including, and I kid you fucking not, in fact it deserves a drumroll - wait for it...

....Gillette fucking Venus !! You can’t make this shit up.

God I love the women of Lipstick Alley, they take no shit.

I dunno, calling trans men 'dumb bitches' seems unnecessary to me....

The email denial from P&G - isn’t really a denial - it just says we (whoever is replying) don’t find about packaging changes until the package changes - which sounds a bit lame - and the Daily Mail when printing stories about multi billion companies don’t tend to pick stories out of thin air and will have done a bit of due diligence -

Yet again I am [opposite of surprised] to see which replies are hidden/deboosted.

Imagine how pleasant Twitter could be if they used their algorithm for good rather than this blatant women hating?

That’s funny. What a waste of space. How very little they must have on their life.

Always makes their money, globally, through women who are born female. If true this is a ridiculous own goal for them. There are plenty of other sanitary towel providers in the market and people like me, who have heavy flows, will just return to using maternity pads

This is one of the tweets from "melly boom", which was sent to Always. If someone could please do screenshots it may be useful.

twitter.com/MellyBoomBoom_/status/1149720710501326850

I had to but some today. I voted with my wallet. If this isn’t happening why not issue a press release or tweet that they aren’t doing this bla bla bla. But no - customers not worth bothering about or even listening to? Nah.

If they weren't doing it, wouldn't they be crisis managing the shitshow currently all over their public facing social media, and several news sites?

It'd be the work of moments to say "no, we are not changing the packaging"

So why the silence?

God I love the women of Lipstick Alley, they take no shit.

I’d be interested to know if trans men have campaigned to put sanitary bins in men’s toilets and if so how far that has got. My guess - as it affects men’s facilities, not very.

A couple of links here.

www.lipstickalley.com/threads/transgender-lobby-forces-always-to-ditch-female-logo-from-its-sanitary-towels.2882788/#post-51253537

www.stonewall.org.uk/about-us/news/our-young-campaigner-year-importance-lgbt-inclusive-education

I sent it to the enquiry part of P and G Always page

The response I received from P and G

Thank you for your email and inquiry
I have checked the history of our products and see no mention of any wrapper or packaging changes. If there is an upcoming change , this information would not be shared with us until it happens.
Thank you for taking a moment to share your heartfelt thoughts with us. Having the opinions and preferences of those who use our products is helpful to us.
Your feedback is appreciated and will be shared with all the Always team.
Kind regards
Karen the Always team.

Now of course this doesn’t say that a change may or may not happened, (just that she can’t see any plans. I also pointed out the unpopularity of the scented products) , however at least Igot a response and if more of us get in touch the truth of the matter will come out.

No sympathy for trans men either; if you want tea and sympathy don’t choose to treat your dysphoria by attempting to erase signs of womanhood, can’t have it both ways.

Well I'm guessing it's confirmed now if it's in the papers.

It's in the Fail - they don't let the truth get in the way of clickbait.

I can't find anything on the P&G or Always websites - someone else confirming on Twitter that it's on the P&G website is unnecessary if it's on the website for all to see.

Boycotting P&G would be a huge change for me (and probably lots of people) as they own so many brands - so I'd like to know it's true before putting energy into this!

Does anyone have a reliable source to share please?

If it really is so abhorrent to see a symbol representing women they can use Tena for men.
On the other hand if this is based on a deep seated hatred of women, this kind of shit will continue until everything is either male centric or gender neutral.

They can take hormones to stop them. Or if they don't want to take hormones, they can have their tubes tied.

I think the whole pandering to the trans thing is bloody ridiculous but just to point out. Having your tubes tied doesn’t stop menstruation.

I agree with hey and viv

I honestly sympathise with any transman who has periods

They are a fucking pain for most females, i dont know anyone who likes the sodding things, but especially if you are suffering with dysphoria and hating your body

I feel like my body is betraying me as it is!

Interesting, Carrie. I looked on the Always Twitter feed when HQ removed this as possible fake news. There's plenty on the Twitter feed about it, and no message from Always in their responses that this is not real or happening.

It doesn't seem to be happening to brands for men, they are not being targeted to include transwomen - I bet some transwomen still have to shave.
'Bulldog skincare for men'
Gillett The best a man can get'
Product category 'Male grooming'.

@CoolCarrie please share your letter that says this news story is not true

What I don't understand is that if you have a dysphoria and menstruating is difficult for you (which makes sense and I am sympathetic about that)...then why don't you use any of the many options to prevent menstruation?

It's not obligatory.

And I totally sympathise with any trans man that experiences periods. It must be awful when you’ve grown a beard, deepened your voice, have started to get a receding hairline and your biology just won’t play ball and insists on doing this most female of things and menstruating. I’ve seen videos from transmen like Alex Bertie and it really affects them.