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Always (sanitary towells) forced to remove Venus logo

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QwertySmalls · 20/10/2019 09:44

From The Fail unfortunately maybe someone can find another source but I cant see one atm.

Transgender lobby forces sanitary towel-maker Always to ditch Venus logo from its products

Sanitary towel pad maker now kowtows to transgender activists born female
They removed the feminine Venus symbol from its products after complaints
Butmany of Always’s female customers have responded angrily to the move
Sanitary towels with the new packaging will arrive in the stores by January 2020

www.google.com/amp/s/www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7592413/amp/Transgender-lobby-forces-ditch-female-logo-sanitary-towels.html

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RufusthebewiIderedreindeer · 20/10/2019 17:22

concentrate on those and don't get drawn into the rubbish like this

Kind of ironic bearing in mind where we are

MonChatEstMagnifique · 20/10/2019 17:19

it’s the principle of the thing.

When people say that, it's usually something petty.

I hate scented sanitary towels, I commented on a thread the other day about it in fact. I did complain but most women I know who don't like the scent, haven't complained. Just because people moan on a thread about it doesn't mean they are complaining to the company unfortunately. It's very different to change packaging than to change the actual product, if it is in fact true. Packaging changes all the time so even if this is the reason for them taking the logo off, they wouldn't need to admit it.

I still think people should stick to the important issues.

MonChatEstMagnifique · 20/10/2019 17:13

I'm not bothered that the packaging is changing

I couldn’t tell you what the packaging was

I bothered about WHY the packaging is changing

But that's my point. It's petty of transmen, although I bet most couldn't care less. So then some women are being equally as petty. It doesn't matter, there are lots of trans issues that really are important in terms of the potential to harm women, concentrate on those and don't get drawn into the rubbish like this.

LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 20/10/2019 17:10

@ MonChatEstMagnifique - it’s the principle of the thing. Why push to hard to erase the symbol? And why would the company - who have ignored calls by women about the stinky and itchy scents in their products - rolled over on the say so of 2 folks who say they aren’t women (but biology means they have to use sanpro for the usual reasons).

RufusthebewiIderedreindeer · 20/10/2019 17:07

Im not bothered that the packaging is changing

I couldn’t tell you what the packaging was

I bothered about WHY the packaging is changing

HandsOffMyRights · 20/10/2019 17:06

Yes and Snickers 'you're not you when you're hungry' man turns into Joan Collins and Elton John.
Obviously women and gay men are all divas?

MonChatEstMagnifique · 20/10/2019 17:06

Although I think it's pathetic that trans men would be bothered by the packaging, I find it equally pathetic that women are bothered if this logo is removed from packaging. I don't even look at the packaging and wasn't aware this logo featured on it. For women to get defensive about this logo as though it really represents us is just ridiculous in my opinion. Packaging gets changed all the time anyway. I think there are many trans issues that have the potential to really affect women, this for me isn't one of them.

LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 20/10/2019 17:02

Remember the Yorkie bars - for men? Weird stuff indeed.

MrsSnippyPants · 20/10/2019 16:58

I have still had no response to my question about why the thread I started on this exact same subject was removed.
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/site_stuff/3722292-I-started-a-thread-in-FWR-that-has-been-deleted

TequilaPilates · 20/10/2019 16:57

Tena pads are much more expensive than always though.

LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 20/10/2019 16:55

With the added benefit of proudly displaying tena man in your basket and not yukky girl stuff.

UnbowedUnbentUnbroken · 20/10/2019 16:49

Why not use tena men pads then. I assume they provide a similar function.

I used tenna products after birth of DC3 they were incredibly effective. If I were ever going to have more theyd be my first choice they saw me through everything. Not a drop of amniotic fluid was spilled (except when the midwife moved my pads across the room and I had to get them). Excellent for the post birth bleeding and all the delights that brings.

They are available in varying sizes and dont all look like nappies. Some are very discreet.

LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 20/10/2019 16:34

I’m finding Mars bars just too too triggering. I had to lie down in a darkened room after shopping today.

BeanBag7 · 20/10/2019 16:31

I think about 1% of the population identify as transgender. Maybe they could change the packaging to have 99 venus signs and 1 Mars sign per packet.

Or put "XX" on the packaging to show that the people using it are genetically female?

LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 20/10/2019 16:22

I have a handy list on my phone. It’s getting rather long!

Jaxhog · 20/10/2019 16:13

Easy response. Boycott.

LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 20/10/2019 16:10

Anyone else getting Fairy ads popping up?

Gingerkittykat · 20/10/2019 16:07

I’d be interested to know if trans men have campaigned to put sanitary bins in men’s toilets and if so how far that has got. My guess - as it affects men’s facilities, not very

Yes Dundee university tried this, and it got shelved after a few weeks after the facilities got vandalised. Scottish schools, colleges and unis provide free sanitary products to all students.

Dundee

Aridane · 20/10/2019 15:55

There was a thread about this but MNHQ took it down as the reports were unconfirmed

No - MNHQ Took it down for transphobia, or in MNHQ twee speak, ,not in the spirt'.

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Michelleoftheresistance · 20/10/2019 15:53

Black Forest wonder why this isn't occurring to the super woke firms.

Wider market. If they'd brought out a new line, with new packaging, a gender neutral range to be sold alongside their classic range, I'd have cheered them on. It's never to add wider variety. It's always to disguise the fact of biological women existing.

beckyvardy · 20/10/2019 15:48

Won't be buying anything P & G now.

That has made me absolutely feeewwwmin. Joke of it is, probably because I have PMT I am already ragey today.

The world has gone mad.

Here is their list of products off wiki.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/ListoffProcter%266Gamble_brands

BlackForestCake · 20/10/2019 15:32

Shouldn't there be a separate masculine-looking brand of sanpro for people who have periods but are men somehow? Probably called something suitably macho like Clot Patrol or I'm Too Tough To Be Bothered With Periods. This is par for the course for every other kind of toiletry.

LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 20/10/2019 15:14

Because one or two trans men decided it was terrible to have it on there. The push to deny anything as ‘woman’ in case it upsets the trans community. I don’t see tena man getting this much Gip.

BuzzShitbagBobbly · 20/10/2019 14:56

I don't know why the trans community is so up in arms anyway. To reflect one of their own taglines back at them

TERF Venus is just a descriptive name, it's not a loaded term at all.

LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 20/10/2019 14:54

And if you have ceased to have periods - you still had them!