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Always (sanitary towells) forced to remove Venus logo

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QwertySmalls · 20/10/2019 09:44

From The Fail unfortunately maybe someone can find another source but I cant see one atm.

Transgender lobby forces sanitary towel-maker Always to ditch Venus logo from its products

Sanitary towel pad maker now kowtows to transgender activists born female
They removed the feminine Venus symbol from its products after complaints
Butmany of Always’s female customers have responded angrily to the move
Sanitary towels with the new packaging will arrive in the stores by January 2020

www.google.com/amp/s/www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7592413/amp/Transgender-lobby-forces-ditch-female-logo-sanitary-towels.html

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RufusthebewiIderedreindeer · 20/10/2019 22:42

Apologies...i can see posters are moving on so thats all good

Branleuse · 20/10/2019 22:41

Bodyform are more comfortable anyway

RufusthebewiIderedreindeer · 20/10/2019 22:41

Please check your facts before being rude

You started with the rude

MonChatEstMagnifique · 20/10/2019 22:39

Tbh Mon I skim read your posts

You read them enough to jump on them, quote them and try to say I was wrong though. Anyway, I thought we were both moving on. Wink

traceyracer · 20/10/2019 22:31

I may be playing devil's advocate a little but come on, all that should matter is whether the product is good at doing its job or not.

There are things to get angry about, IMO this isn't one of them.

GetbusywiththeFizzee · 20/10/2019 22:29

Tbh Mon I skim read your posts 😉

CactusAndCacti · 20/10/2019 22:26

My sister was allergic to Lenor something like 40 years ago - never bought it ever.

I use Bodyform - the scent doesn't worry me, and I know it is probably hyperbole but too many MN users have said they can actually smell them when others are using scented pads that I have been put off for life.

Night is a worry - I am considering pants, but I am so irregular that it is a massive lay out for something that I may not need.

Beamur · 20/10/2019 21:22

WomanBornNotWorn
I thought the same. Given the manufacturers of these products have about a billion different variations and packagings, why not do some with plain wrappers?
The lack of listening about women not liking scented products (and the inference that our parts smell) is bad enough but the capitulation and celebration over what seems like a minority complaint is a kick in the teeth.
Never will I buy Always again.
I bought a different fabric softener today too having been a longtime Lenor user.

WomanBornNotWorn · 20/10/2019 21:15

Why couldn't Always have simply provided a small percentage of their products in different packaging that wouldn't upset a tiny minority of users? And kept the reality-based packaging for the majority? = Everyone catered for.

MonChatEstMagnifique · 20/10/2019 21:04

It was based on your posts so I suggest we put it down to difference of opinion and move on.

You got it wrong. When you stated Always changed them to scented years ago, I had already said which pads I have to use. They didn't change them to scented years ago, it's a fairly recent change, probably in the last 6-9 months.

So not really a difference of opinion but very happy to move on.

PJsatMidday · 20/10/2019 21:02

This movement is like death by a thousand cuts. One petty thing after another, each one you think, "oh is it really that bad, can I be bothered to get het up about it?" And then you get to the position we find ourselves in today.

I can be as petty as I want with my spending decisions. I can spend my money on whatever I want to for whatever reason I want to. I am not going to feel belittled in doing so to assuage the latent guilt of someone else who doesn't want to stop using products by a company that holds adult human females in contempt..

GetbusywiththeFizzee · 20/10/2019 20:55

Glad to help you out Mon.

Again no, it wasn’t rude. It was based on your posts so I suggest we put it down to difference of opinion and move on.

MonChatEstMagnifique · 20/10/2019 20:49

Rude? Where was I rude?

Where you said:

Where you have been for the last two decades, they changed years ago

Rude......and incorrect.

if your flow is as heavy as you describe you should see a gynaecologist

😂 If only I'd have thought of that.

GetbusywiththeFizzee · 20/10/2019 20:40

Rude? Where was I rudeConfused?

With the caveat that this is not being rude - if your flow is as heavy as you describe you should see a gynaecologist.

MonChatEstMagnifique · 20/10/2019 20:30

Btw there’s no award out there for heaviest flow
I’ll repeat: there are alternatives to Always that do the job - although clearly not for you.*

Didn't say there was, I was simply explaining that other products haven't worked for me. If I used other products I wouldn't be able to leave the house for any longer than 30 minutes. I work, have children and a life and obviously that is not a option.

As you like repeating, I'll also repeat: there are no alternatives I have found that work for me. HTH

ErnestJones · 20/10/2019 20:26

Thank you for your kind words and Flowers I am all sorted now and can go home tomorrow.

Fortunately my years supply of Always has been used up and I shall be sourcing alternative brands. The Tesco own brand wasn’t that good to be honest. Has anyone used Aldi Always Rip Off ones?

MonChatEstMagnifique · 20/10/2019 20:24

Recently changed to scented? Where you have been for the last two decades, they changed years ago

You're wrong. The ones I use, Always Maxi Night only recently changed to scented. I know because I searched everywhere for old stock and contacted Always about it. All old stock, (non scented) was gone and no new stock (scented) was available for a couple of weeks at my local stores.

Please check your facts before being rude ! Wink

MonChatEstMagnifique · 20/10/2019 20:20

And complaining about a symbol isn’t petty?

Is this question for me? If so, if you read my first post, I did say I think it's pathetic that trans men would be bothered by packaging.

I'm sure many trans men wouldn't be bothered, only a few attention seeking, dramatic ones. But by women acknowledging it, I think it turns into a silly game, rather then sticking to the big issues that really matter.

GetbusywiththeFizzee · 20/10/2019 20:13

Recently changed to scented? Where you have been for the last two decades, they changed years ago?
Btw there’s no award out there for heaviest flow Hmm
I’ll repeat: there are alternatives to Always that do the job - although clearly not for you.

LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 20/10/2019 20:08

And complaining about a symbol isn’t petty? Bullying a company to change its packaging for you and the rest of you community (which is teensy) isn’t being a wee bit precious?

MonChatEstMagnifique · 20/10/2019 20:04

Always aren’t the only pads for heavy flow btw- might be the case for you but not for me. Plenty of other choices out there that do the job perfectly adequately and without smelling of cheap perfume.

Bully for you. Wink Unfortunately I haven't found anything else that does the job adequately so I have to stick with always which they recently changed to be scented. Clearly some heavy periods are heavier than others, who would have thought ? Someone has recommended another pad to me which is unscented but still made by Always so hoping that will solve the cheap perfume smell problem.

GetbusywiththeFizzee · 20/10/2019 19:57

I won't lower myself to the pettiness shown by anyone complaining about a logo
Bully for you. I can’t see the moral high ground any longer- too many rainbows and mermaids blocking the view.
Always aren’t the only pads for heavy flow btw- might be the case for you but not for me. Plenty of other choices out there that do the job perfectly adequately and without smelling of cheap perfume.

CharlieParley · 20/10/2019 19:57

Like leeloo1 I too noticed the new pattern. No twee flowers, but a Venus symbol. Cool. I didn't think it was intended as a statement (however subtle) relating to the current debate. I just thought it was simply logical. Periods = female. Symbol for female = Venus. Nice change from the flowers.

You're seeing lots of messages on Twitter and a campaign on this now precisely because this packaging is new.

And considering that on the FWR front page right now are around half a dozen different examples of female erasure, no, this isn't just one thing. It isn't one little thing. It is part of the ongoing war on women.

And yes, many trans activists are female. Many of them are trying to identify out of womanhood, for a variety of reasons. But all of this is part of pushing transgender ideology and legislation onto society.

I fear that those who honestly think this is just about stupid, inconsequential packaging, haven't paid enough attention. I don't expect anyone to take action over this, but I would hope that the nature of what is going on will be noted.

MonChatEstMagnifique · 20/10/2019 19:55

No I don't suffer. It was just a suggestion, incase you hadn't thought of maternity for normal use.

I think most women who suffer from heavy periods, endometriosis, adenomyosis, fibroids etc have tried pretty much everything. It's very frustrating, costly and affects life hugely. I hope you now have a better understanding of why other products don't work.

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