Always (sanitary towells) forced to remove Venus logo

Oh and looks like Mastercard (appropriate name) Lyft? and Tinder are the latest/next to glug the Koolaid, according to the article.

I have a Mastercard. It's well used.

No one is assigned ‘woman’ at birth.

Observed female, referred to as ‘girl’ sure.

From the piece: *Getting periods can be a dysphoric experience for transgender and nonbinary people, especially because of the way that periods are generally discussed and addressed as something that only happens to people who are assigned women at birth.

www.cnn.com/2019/10/22/health/always-period-gender-symbol-removed-transgender-nonbinary-trnd/index.html

Too angry to type effectively -why must the few get to eradicate the many? Basic biological erosion underway here.
Will never buy their products ever again.

I worded that was really badly Birdsfoottrefoil. Apologies. I meant to say (something along the lines of) 'if having a period is triggering, I would have thought the symbol would be the least of your worries'. I didn't mean to suggest removing the symbol was a non issue.

Always menstrual hygiene products[2]
Ariel laundry detergent
Bounty paper towels, sold in the United States and Canada
Charmin bathroom tissue and moist towelettes[3]
Crest toothpaste[4]
Dawn dishwashing
Downy fabric softener and dryer sheets
Fairy washing up liquid
Febreze odor eliminator
Gain laundry detergents, liquid fabric softener, dryer sheets and dish washing liquid
Gillette razors, shaving soap, shaving cream, body wash, shampoo, deodorant and anti-perspirant
Head & Shoulders shampoo
Olay personal and beauty products
Oral-B inter-dental products
Pampers & Pampers Kandoo and Luvs disposable diapers and moist towelettes. The 2014 Financial Report lists Pampers as Procter & Gamble's largest brand.[5]
Pantene haircare products
SK-II beauty products
Tide laundry detergents and products
Vicks cough and cold products

Ones to avoid LADIES!

I just came to say...

News just in
Canada
Court case
Agreed
Complainant lost
Has to pay legal fees of beauticians

Can’t say any more. Wall have ears🤭😒

i got deleted! There’s no freedom of speech, when it comes to protecting this tiny sector of society.

We should all boycott P&G! I certainly will. Are you reading P&G... you have just alienated your target market!

I find it strange that a company would throw their brand under a bus by alienating their market, especially as they're supposed to maximise profits for their shareholders benefit.

Gonna get RSI at that rate.

I imagine 'their' right hand is already well exercised.

I see someone/s has had fun going through the thread and complaining about everything. Gonna get RSI at that rate.

Fishing rods, beer and rugby balls - if my understanding of what non women like (from observing Hallmark Father’s Day cards).

Will the new ones have footballs on? Or trains? Dinosaurs?

Always are making me feel thoroughly infantilised and largely ignored,

I currently use Always Sensitive, which are currently pink and flowery - will they keep the sensitive ones pink and make the new, manlier ones grey?

SO many questions.

Quite.
#Likeagirl really doesn't fit anymore either by their own argument.
Nope.

Our mission remains to ensure no girl loses confidence at puberty because of her gender or period

Batshit. They don't understand what they're talking about. This references 'girl'. 'Her'. 'Period', as if it was allowed under the ideology they've just got into bed with. Always, you cannot support female children to overcome the born into disadvantages of their biology when you've just sold yourselves to people who insist you pretend female has no meaning and that it isn't possible or ethical to recognise a class of people by their biology.

I'm just thinking about the boycott of P&G... will it not make more of a statement to only boycott Always? If it's all their brands that have reduced sales then doesn't it dilute the message? They could just claim it's for other reasons (Brexit being the obvious one!). Whereas only a reduction of Always sales would be quite obvious the cause. Happy to be told otherwise but it was just a thought.

With that response they may as well relaunch their #likeagirl campaign as #likeaperson so that it includes trans men and transwomen, as well as non-binary.

I really do hope women vote with their wallet.

This is the response I got. Sigh.

Thanks for your email to Always.

For over 35 years Always has championed girls and women, and we will continue to do so. We’re also committed to diversity & inclusion, and after hearing from many people across genders and age groups, we realised that not everyone who has a period and needs to use a pad identifies as female. To ensure that anyone who needs to use a period product feels comfortable in doing so with Always, we updated our pad wrapper design. Our mission remains to ensure no girl loses confidence at puberty because of her gender or period and we do this through our puberty education programs, by providing access to period products with programs such as #EndPeriodPoverty, and by using our brand voice to tackle societal barriers and stigmas like we did with #LikeAGirl.

Yes, it's just one little symbol on packaging. No biggie. It's just a Masters track cycling race, who cares? It's just women in prison. It's just rape statistics, why does it matter?

A symbol on packaging that isn't on all sanpro and has only been on always sanpro for a short time doesn't erase women or put them at risk. Trans women in women's sport and in women's prisons does both of these things. It's completely different. If women argue about this petty issue, it takes away from the things that do matter, that do erase women and that do put women in danger. I care about those things, they matter. A logo on a towel, I couldn't care less.

Yes, Mon, women still exist. We just become that indefinable group of humans which make up half the population (and Always' entire customer base).

Yes, it's just one little symbol on packaging. No biggie. It's just a Masters track cycling race, who cares? It's just women in prison. It's just rape statistics, why does it matter? What harm does a little bit of compelled speech cause if it saves someone's feelings?

So if there are so many brands available that don't have the logo, why lobby with the one brand that does?

I've already said I think it's pathetic that some trans men are bothered but was just making the point that it doesn't erase women as we existed before Always put this logo on their packaging.

I also have lots of other brands and none of them have it on either. So it's hardly erasing women when it never used to exist on at least some Always and other brand sanpro.

So if there are so many brands available that don't have the logo, why lobby with the one brand that does? After all it turns out that most other brands are perfectly suitably for trans men and non binary people.

I don't lobby with shops which don't offer tall ranges/extra leg length, despite the fact that many of their clothes are too short for me as a tall person. Instead I shop at places that cater to me. Normal tops that look like crop tops on me don't trigger me.

This move by P&G is just one little thing on top of all the other little and not quite so little things.

It's companies like P&G appeasing a tiny minority. It's gradually losing access to single sex spaces. It's rapists being allowed to change gender in the middle of a court case. It's male prisoners transitioning to female to gain access to female prisons. It is reducing being a woman to the gender stereotypes of long hair, make up, dresses and heels. It's having a dick and declaring it female. It's telling lesbians that they really are trans men. It's allowing kids to totally fuck up their developing bodies. It's telling natal women they aren't women, but cis-women. It's telling people that not being attracted to someone whose identified gender doesn't match their genitals is transphobic.

It's woke, virtue-signalling bullshit.

If I worked at Always I would do the redesign in the pinkest pink shades I could find, just to spite them 🙊