Always (sanitary towells) forced to remove Venus logo

I think I might write in pretending to be a transman and complaining about the scented towels, which force me to smell girly when I identify as all male. Transphobic!!

Wonder if Always would finally get rid of the perfume?

Do it!

Though the cynic in me worries they'd simply bring out a range of gender neutral scented ones which smell suspiciously like Lynx. Possibly the only thing that could smell worse than the poundshop car air freshner fragrance they currently use.

I think I might write in pretending to be a transman and complaining about the scented towels, which force me to smell girly when I identify as all male. Transphobic!!

Wonder if Always would finally get rid of the perfume?

Ugh ok.....another site to avoid.

I thought Snopes was meant to be reliable?

It's run by left wing Canadians isn't it?

Snopes doesn't surprise me. I expect there's a huge overlap with the "atheist"/rational wiki community (I've put atheist in quote marks because these aren't just people who disbelieve in God, these are people who feel they have to proselytise about it, almost with the same fervour as evangelical believers - as an agnostic I find them quite weird, psychologically speaking).

Typically lefty dude bros with a side order of misogyny.

I was looking at Snopes last nigh and they had an article about this with the conclusion that feminist women were being 'aggressive' in asking for a boycott and much more unreasonable than the trans lobby. It said that when the Venus symbol was put on the trans lobby didn't complain yet now it is being removed, women are complaining ergo feminists are the unreasonable and aggressive ones! It concluded that the trans lobby did NOT get the symbol removed.

WTAF? I thought Snopes was meant to be reliable? It also referred to gender throughout, rather than sex. Pile of shit.

I see my last comment was removed (probably for being facetious), so I'll put it more straightforwardly.

Why, if transmen are so dysphoric that they are triggered by periods and feminine packaging, are they choosing to have periods in the first place? There are lots of contraceptive methods which eliminate them completely.

I do like the idea of condoms being marketed to 'anyone with a penis' (from Naomi Firsht in the Speccie blog).

I think I may be emailing Durex later today.

Thanks Timelady, Naomi and The Spectator.

I've seen some bizarre posts on MN referring to women getting het up just over the removal of a 'fanny symbol'. Worth noting it was actually one TRA who took issue with the longstanding Venus symbol, with Always pandering.

Anyway, this paragraph from the article sums up just why I'm being vocal and boycotting Always:

It shouldn’t really matter, should it? It’s just a symbol on a wrapper. But it does. Because when you start to deny women’s biology, you begin to deny they exist at all.^

Nice piece on this in The Spectator

blogs.spectator.co.uk/2019/10/the-bizarre-decision-to-remove-the-venus-symbol-from-sanitary-towels/

Well I hope Always and Flora lose a lot of business – they deserve to. What on earth are they thinking alienating their key demographic? Because on the whole, it is still women who do the family food shop, and it’s only women who have periods.

Thanks, Naomi Firsht (and The Speccie)

I'm wondering if Tena men & Tena lady will come under pressure to change names to something more "inclusive"

Tena can be mispronounced as Tina 🤫 Will need to rebrand as Tenor alongside a grovelling apology for literal violence against women with incontinence who identify as men with incontinence and are being made to deny their existence when buying female named incontinence pads.
This will then lead to demands for Tena Lady for men who identify as women and are only able to buy products with lovely lady names.
Bog standard women and men will be the ones smelling of wee as they won’t know which product to actually buy 😥

The way things are going, the future will inevitably hold a very large international liberation movement for exceptionally pissed off people born female, who are done with putting up with all this crap.

I've just read the post on cheeky wipes Facebook page. Clear to see many people (Inc posie Parker) have been deleted and banned.

I'm finding this all so very depressing what does the future hold..

BarbaraStrozzi
Apologies it was posted about a couple pgs back I missed it but worth the bump for others anyway I hope. Yes it's just nasty isn't it.I'll be keeping an eye in that twitter thread to see if the always team will reply to these women.

I'm wondering if Tena men & Tena lady will come under pressure to change names to something more "inclusive"

Tena Men will probably go unchallenged but it will be Tena Lady that has to change to Tena People or maybe just Tena.

My worry is those businesses that are being 'inclusive' but not really announcing it, so it's not as noticeable as Always and some other brands. So very subtle changes but we still end up at a point where businesses no longer use the words woman, female, feminine etc. If the words can be eliminated when talking about periods then we have no hope for other areas of life.

Blimey, that twitter thread is an eye-opener, Once.

Yes, definitely start a thread on that as well. I know a lot of us have said Always gives us an itchy fanny, but it sounds like Always have gone one worse in countries where they think they can get away with dumping sub standard products where consumer regulation isn't as tight, and are actually selling products which cause chemical burns.

(NB, used to share an office with a fellow student part of whose research involved making polyelectrolyte gels - the stuff that goes into Always and nappies - and the precursor chemicals are incredibly nasty, even if the end result is pretty benign. I can only begin to imagine what the end result would be like if something went wrong in your processing plant and some of the nasties lingered in the end product...)

For those of you wondering what the recent deletions are for, well several posters used a traditional (Scottish?) word that rhymes with baddie...

Maybe this needs a thread of its own?

mobile.twitter.com/BBCAfrica/status/1105872131362091009

"Kenyan women are using the Twitter hashtag #MyAlwaysExperience to express outrage over the Always brand of sanitary pads, which they say causes rashes, burns and discomfort."
One woman even says she thought that was normal to feel burning.

Oh yes I had forgotten about Tena.

Cheeky Wipes have gone the way of Thinx, sort of...at least we are not reduced to 'menstruators'.

I'm wondering if Tena men & Tena lady will come under pressure to change names to something more "inclusive"

Periods what now? Do the lads sit in the pub and discuss their periods over a pint?

Periods generally discussed and addressed as something that only happens to people who are assigned women at birth. Oh boy, have I got news for these people.

Is this just a huge immaturity and self absorption thing?