Yoga with Adriene - Redo of PMS Video

Floisme

Thank you. I genuinely appreciate that.

I have to say, in this instance I can understand why *Tequila's annoyed. Lecturing someone about acceptance when they're describing their disability sounds unbelievably tone deaf and arrogant, no matter how well meaning.

Sorry to hear about your condition Tequila. We may not agree on much but in your shoes, I don't think I'd be searching for acceptance either.

But it is true that certain transwomen have objected to using the word women when referring to female biology - for example Munroe Bergdorf asked women not to make the women's march all about female biology.

Because her direct message previously said ‘they don’t identify as women’ but have symptoms

I don't see why, Marsha - some transwomen object to the word "woman" being used in the context of PMS, or anything to do with female biology, because it makes them feel excluded.

That's fine, but it's not at all what yoga is about. And you'd probably find you'd get so much more out of your body and then your life with the acceptance.

I DON'T CARE. I don't want to find acceptance. I don't want more out of this body. I don't want this body at all.

You'll probably get there eventually, anyway, I hope for that for you. It's a blessing.

For you, not for me. So you crack on with your acceptance and I'll crack on with doing my best to change my situation.

It would more likely be trans men writing in though. Well that’s how I interpreted it.

5th rule of misogyny: Women and Feminism must be useful to men or they are worthless.

Sorry for the derail x

Thanks womenspeakout he was a wonderful man - one of the real good ones. I think of him every day, but they're happier thoughts these days - good memories. I married a man just like him - they got on so well, I sometimes thought dad liked him more than me

*Thanks for saying that womenspeakout.

It's a good place to be. My use of the word acceptance was completely (deliberately?) misconstrued. For example: Acceptance is also used in the stages of grief. I don't think I'll ever not miss my dad, who died in 2014, but 5yrs on, I have reached a level of acceptance - of knowing he won't be coming back. I don't like it, but there is an acceptance. An acknowledgment of reality.*

It just resonated so well.

It's very much like a death/grievance. What could have been, what's now gone.

As a dancer, it really was so hard to find it, I hated my body so much, I felt like it was a punishment, and now I realise I was punishing my body for not being what I wanted it to be or what I expected it to be.

It was such a burden though, it just held me back so much. It was the acceptance that made such an impact and then such improvement.

It's nothing like giving up, it's the opposite to giving up. It's accepting and allowing it to be and improve upon that. It's not constantly fighting a battle with myself, but nurturing it.
I never thought I would arrive at it though, because I was so unhappy/depressed with it. But it was holding me back so much.

I'm so sorry to hear about your dad. x

I'll tell you what - this thread is doing yoga no favours whatsoever.

You continue to misunderstand what we're saying here, Tequila.

I, on the other hand, hate my body and do not want to accept it. Is that alright with you?

That's fine, but it's not at all what yoga is about. And you'd probably find you'd get so much more out of your body and then your life with the acceptance.

You'll probably get there eventually, anyway, I hope for that for you. It's a blessing.

Because when you can't do anything about a situation or a person's death then acceptance is an option.

I don't want to accept something when I can continue to try to change things.

I'll be sure to remember this thread when I dislocate my shoulders on multiple occasions tonight as I roll over in bed or when I dislocate my knee walking down the stairs in the morning. I'm sure acceptance will make it all so much more bearable.

Thanks for saying that womenspeakout.

It's a good place to be. My use of the word acceptance was completely (deliberately?) misconstrued. For example: Acceptance is also used in the stages of grief. I don't think I'll ever not miss my dad, who died in 2014, but 5yrs on, I have reached a level of acceptance - of knowing he won't be coming back. I don't like it, but there is an acceptance. An acknowledgment of reality.

I don't care either way, do you, but you're not really doing 'yoga' you're exercising.

I DONT CARE.

It wasn't until I accepted my body was different that I allowed myself to move forward and found new capabilities.

Good for you for accepting your body.

I, on the other hand, hate my body and do not want to accept it. Is that alright with you?

surely gaining an acceptance of it is part of life.

So very true,

It wasn't until I accepted my body was different that I allowed myself to move forward and found new capabilities.

I was in a cycle of denial and self loathing, very angry with my body. There was no health benefit in it at all, and the tools in yoga gave me the realisation of what I could do by accepting where I was and where I am.

Acceptance is anything but giving up, it's a freedom to be and explore from there. I'm in such a different place to when I was so angry at my body. I look back and feel like I was a whole different person.

No amount of yoga or mindfulness or breathing or chanting is ever going to make me accept it so I'll do my best to keep mobile with whatever tools I have available and if that offends you sorry (not sorry)

I don't care either way, do you, but you're not really doing 'yoga' you're exercising.

I felt the exact same way about my body, but the tools I gained from yoga made me appreciate it was mine, and mine alone, and mine could do things only mine could do so I was proud of it. It's the only one I'll be given, so I should take care of it and be kind to it and love my body. Yoga gave me that.

As I said, I have multiple disabilities, and I was a professional dancer and that has been taken away from me by disabilities. I felt I would never love this body that had let me down, but yoga has given me my love for my bod back.

You don't offend me though, strange thing to say.

I’ve been doing Adriene’s yoga for a couple of years and really like her, but I think it was a bit unrealistic to think she’d be anything but woke and down with the lovely glitter unicorns. She doesn’t exactly come across as someone likely to go against the majority view.

I don’t doubt her intentions are good.

Anway, moving on, OP, I agree with this. Agree that all women's services are under onslaught. It's hard not to be sensitive to this, when anything with the word "woman" in is under attack for not being "inclusive" enough.

So this on it's own may not seem that big a deal - but in the context of everything else going on - it is.

It was kindly meant.

Then once is enough. Once I'd said thanks but no thanks I'm not sure why you felt the need to keep going on, patronising me with explaining repeatedly what acceptance means.

Chill out Tequila. Just ignore my advice if you don't want it. It was kindly meant.

zebrasdontwearbras

Good for you. Maybe on your spiritual journey you could learn to not push your fanaticism where it's not wanted?