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The neuroscientist shattering the myth of the gendered brain

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DancelikeEmmaGoldman · 20/10/2019 01:24

“Neuroscientist Gina Rippon has been ruffling some feathers with her research that is shattering the myth of the gendered brain.

Her work reveals how brains reflect the life they have lived, not the sex of their owners. And that there is no consistent evidence that shows fundamental differences between the brains of men and women. In other words, there is no such thing as the male or female brain.”

“So there is no consistent part of the brain or network we have currently been able to measure that establishes whether a brain is from a man or a woman. That’s the key thing that surprises people because they assume differences are there.”

“The type of games you play will change your brain. We know that from judo and juggling to violin and keyboard playing. By definition, moving the body differently according to the demands of the skill you are acquiring will change the brain. So not playing football will have a direct effect on the brain. But making sure we are doing the right things to stay part of our social group is also an important driver.

“Our brains are gathering the rules of behaviour and if those rules are gendered, then our brains will make us gendered.

“It becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy. Some research may find differences, but then you say, ‘have you looked at the education level of those participants, have they been at school for the same amount of time, have you looked at the sports they play or their occupation?’ To which the answer is always ‘no’. So how do you know what you are finding is a sex difference and not an excludence difference.”

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Justhadathought · 20/10/2019 11:33

So TRAs are right after all. Having genitals removed and taking cross section hormones irradiates any (biological) difference?

Biological differences are never really eradicated by cross sex hormones, but it is clear that hormones do have an impact on mood & sex drive, amongst other things.

When watching 'Freddie' the 'father' give birth - it was quite obvious that the powerful birthing/post-birth hormones kicked in big time - as Freddie bonded with the baby. that is why it was so disturbing that Freddie then decided they wanted to go back on testosterone, straight away. Freddie was clearly feeling very maternal and soft and vulnerable - and didn't like this.

lazylinguist · 20/10/2019 11:32

Surely arguably the fact that 90% of us are attracted to the opposite sex is a similarity between males and females, not a difference.

Justhadathought · 20/10/2019 11:28

of course. so is that a difference between brains, or is it a result of a choice that we're attracted to members of the opposite sex?

There has to be some difference.....especially as a result of hormones. They are pretty powerful substances. So, maybe not much structural difference, but in response patterns.......

AlwaysTawnyOwl · 20/10/2019 11:21

Gina Rippon work is very interesting. Our brains are plastic and respond to the outside world which is why black cab drivers who have spent years doing ‘the knowledge’ of the layout of London streets show visible differences in the area of their brain that desks with that type of processing. Girls are given dolls to play with, boys meccano and this is why boys develop better viseo spatial skills. She was on TV a little while ago working with primary school
Children showing that girls could improve their viseo spatial skills and boys their ability to verbalise their emotions through exercises and toys designed to stimulate that part of the brain. All very positive.

TwatticusFinch · 20/10/2019 09:42

why are 90+% of women attracted to men, and why are 90+% of men attracted to women?

The book doesn't really cover that, nor why men have higher rates of crime etc. which I would have found interesting but is outside the scope of the book.

It's more about how women have been discriminated against for a long time and the ladybrain was used as a justification (it is smaller and therefore must be inferior!) but women can do just as well as men on things like spatial awareness etc.

Women's performance on complex tasks is badly affected if they are told that it is something that women can struggle with, or IIRC even if you tell them that it's something that women normally do better than men because it reminds them that they are a woman (this is one of the reasons I will always be against announcing my she/her pronouns in my email signature etc).

AnyOldPrion · 20/10/2019 09:24

So TRAs are right after all. Having genitals removed and taking cross section hormones irradiates any (biological) difference?

Shouldn’t imagine so. Testosterone causes a number of permanent changes to other parts of the body. Likely it causes changes in the brain as well, whether they’re visible on MRI or not. The removal may not reverse those changes, but might create a different pathway altogether.

Thingybob · 20/10/2019 09:11

Genitals and hormones

So TRAs are right after all. Having genitals removed and taking cross section hormones irradiates any (biological) difference?

MIdgebabe · 20/10/2019 08:24

Genitals and hormones. Suggest read the book, I don't believe it denies biology.

wprice81 · 20/10/2019 08:19

Presumably to ensure the continuation of the human race.

of course. so is that a difference between brains, or is it a result of a choice that we're attracted to members of the opposite sex?

Bezalelle · 20/10/2019 08:11

why are 90+% of women attracted to men, and why are 90+% of men attracted to women?

Presumably to ensure the continuation of the human race.

MIdgebabe · 20/10/2019 08:01

Is that a section in the book?

wprice81 · 20/10/2019 07:45

why are 90+% of women attracted to men, and why are 90+% of men attracted to women?

TwatticusFinch · 20/10/2019 01:41

Her book The Gendered Brain is really interesting.

BadSun · 20/10/2019 01:36

Finally a study proves something that seems blindingly obvious anyway.