Police treat a trans woman's rejection for a porn role as a hate crime

Indeed. Ricky is a star.

Y'know... "my house is being burgled", "yeah we'll be there in a couple of hours maybe", "oh I forgot to mention, I'm being targeted because they believe I belong to x protected group", "sorry - we're on our way!"...

One wonders if it would be worthwhile to report any crime (or incident!) as a hate crime. Obviously misogyny isn't included, so anyone doing that might have to get a bit more creative...

This has echos of what happened in actual porn. Lesbian performer Lily Cade said no to a transwoman who wished to join in lesbian scenes (as I understand it, Ms Cade only ever does scenes with actual females in them). I believe it caused quite the kerfuffle at the time. Honestly the idea of male people with penises inflicting themselves on lesbians is gross and I am not quite sure how they get away with it as readily as the do.
The prosecutions should be going the other way.

This is the problem with Hate Incident reporting. There is no objective test, no filter, nothing to weed out the ludicrous claims. It's all entirely perception based. Which is why removing the College of Policing Guidelines is so important.

Completely agree.

Without these guidelines, this person would not have been able to make a (clearly ludicrous) police report which the police would be obliged to log and take seriously, and then they would not have been able to sell this ridiculous piece of clickbait to The Sun.

This is the problem with Hate Incident reporting. There is no objective test, no filter, nothing to weed out the ludicrous claims. It's all entirely perception based. Which is why removing the College of Policing Guidelines is so important. We're just over a month away to our big showdown in the High Court (20-21 November).

Please, if you can, come along and say Hi.

How can she have 'transitioned' if she still has all her male organs??

Well may you ask @Jaxhog

But apparently your question is transphobic because genitals have nothing to do with gender identity.

You’re a bigot for even thinking that question.

—is there a font for sarcasm?—

Yup. We've seen it. Nothing surprises me. This is right up Dumberside's street.

On a lighter note, if pornographers are going to be forced to hire transwomen on pain of being charged with a hate crime, surely it will kill the industry stone dead? Because I can't see the average punter wanting to watch the middle-aged AGPs who will be lining up to take the roles. /sarcasm

How can she have 'transitioned' if she still has all her male organs?
There is a porn category called "shemale" that employs people like Ria Cooper. In the "Teddy" movie they are referred to as Ds with Ts but I can't say that on FWR because of the special rules.

How can there be a hate crime if there's no crime? I note that the Sun has helpfully included the definition of a hate crime just to drive that point home. British tabloids are after all the OG trolls.

Well, that's good to hear Tyrotoxicity. I have no doubt plenty of individual officers feel the same way, but the organisation itself is hopelessly woke.

Just to be contrary, BoreOf - I recently commented to a Humberside police officer that their witness statement paperwork really ought to ask for sex not gender, and was told, "Yes, unfortunately we're a bit old-fashioned in that respect." She made no comment on the prominent Ministry of Truth sticker on my fridge either.

Yup. We've seen it. Nothing surprises me. This is right up Dumberside's street.

Humberside Police are famously woke though. They do not like Wrongthink

Wonder if @HazzaTheOwl has seen this?

If a transwoman is the victim of a hate crime, is it logged in the statistics as a crime against a woman? Genuine question.

It's a fucking excellent question. I'd love to know the answer.

That's a good question Bezalelle. If TWAW then what are trans hate crimes? Surely hate crimes against women will have shot up? I'm confused.

Agree Pota I think there's more than enough evidence that everything everyone said when the whole concept of 'hate crime' was introduced has now happened, and it's been abused past being anything useful.

If you don't have the qualifications for the job you've applied for your offer will be withdrawn. You can take that up with employment law and have a go re discrimination: fair enough. It's not a bloody police matter, and it's disgraceful they've got involved.

Point made on TV by India Willoughby this week, their observation that people are becoming increasingly wary of working with trans people because they are beginning to expect the challenging behaviour, litigiousness, offended if someone breathes too loud, inappropriacy and all the rest of it that a faction of the trans community are constantly putting in the public eye.

I can think of no other solution than to ban the term hate crime and abolish it. A crime is a crime and it’s unhelpful to try to categorise it as something different just because of who the victim is. The police can’t even figure out what it is themselves (beggars belief). You need a crime for there to be a hate crime. Not being allowed to be in someone’s porno is not a crime. It’s a shame for eg racially aggravated crime but it’s become a total piss take now, there are scarce resources and the police are wasting them on investigating total nonsense, very often reported by people who have a pathological need for attention and revel in being labelled a victim. Needs to stop.

If a transwoman is the victim of a hate crime, is it logged in the statistics as a crime against a woman? Genuine question.

Thanks - for a minute there I thought I had missed some big news...

Acting roles are exempt from sex discrimination legislation.

And, welcome to life as a woman, Ria! Too fat, too short, too ordinary looking... there are LOADS of physical characteristics that will preclude you from ‘modelling’ jobs 🤣

Police are treating it like any reports they receive.
No doubt nothing will come of it.

Except perhaps it might be included in the next set of hate crime statistics:

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-50054915