Police treat a trans woman's rejection for a porn role as a hate crime

It's compelled speech & dishonest. No pillars I want our justice system based upon.

We are increasingly being threatened with sanction if we don't subscribe to the she-bollocks. Judges, police, politicians, woke HR nutters.... but it's NOT law. They just act like it is and expect us to be terrified into playing along.

Thing is, you can't be convicted of rape in the UK without having a penis, correct?

Technically you can be charged with rape if you don't have a penis if you did something like hold the victim down whilst someone else with a penis raped them @TheProdigalKittensReturn. I imagine that's quite rare though, whereas the number of penises-havers who want to identify as female after being arrested for rape seems to be on the increase.

Most likely complaining and making it public in an effort to get their name out there to get other offers of similar work imo 🤔

It has to happen, though. Are we legally required to pretend that we think the emperor is wearing clothes? Yes or no? The majority of the public are clear on the fact that there are no clothes. Can we all be compelled to lie?

Rant away. Don’t ever forget why you are doing this.

I just want to know why this movement has such power.

This tide of utterly shite police news is coming in at the right time. In just over 5 weeks, I'll be facing down the entire fucking establishment, from the source (College of Policing) to the local (Humberside Police).

Can I be honest? I'm shitting it. The number of times I've wanted to chuck in the towel is in double figures. On Tuesday, under an onslaught of our and out lies in PC Gul's witness statement I even wrote to my lawyer and said, Fuck it. I'm out.

Good, calm advice from a Mumsnet Fair Cop colleague got me back on the horse. But, fuck me, it's scary. Rant over.

It's not just rape though, is it? It's whatever crime they have committed. They get the chance to skew the figures by pretending they are women.

In the UK approximately 80,000 men are in prison and approx. 4000 women. If 1% of men identify as women that's equivalent to 20% of the women prisoners.

It's vital that we record the sex of criminals and house them accordingly.

Thing is, you can't be convicted of rape in the UK without having a penis, correct? So everyone will still know that anyone whose "gender" is anything other than "man" is male, because if not they couldn't have been convicted of rape. So what's the bloody point, other than to confuse people who don't know the definition of rape and give MRAs ammunition?

From the times :

“Police forces are recording suspected and convicted rapists as female if they no longer wish to identify with their male birth sex.

Six forces, including South Yorkshire and Thames Valley, disclosed under freedom of information laws that if someone is arrested for or convicted of rape, the official record will state the gender they chose to identify themselves as.“

For the love of god - what does gender have to do with anything? It’s sex. Sex. It’s your body.

Just because ... innit?

I'm pretty sure that in the entertainment industry (being a bit generous here) appearance is always considered a bone fide occupational qualification. For the millionth bloody time, why do the normal rules of engagement not apply to trans people?

I’d suppose in that line of work ‘boobs/willy not huge enough’ would also be a reason to be turned down.

Surely actors are turned down for roles all the time as being ‘not right for the part’. This isn’t hate crime nor discrimination?

I hope the porn wannabee reads about this poor woman in same town and gets a sense of perspective.
www.grimsbytelegraph.co.uk/news/grimsby-news/woman-brutally-raped-home-bathed-3445037.amp?__twitter_impression=true

Just a reminder that Harry has a hole that could do with some digging (in this context I would rather we had a different metaphor)

So the man who propositioned the complaint should have been compelled to have sex? Even through he may not be into that kind of sex? So what if he ended up with a woman who, say, enjoyed sticking needles into the testicles of her partner - would be have the right to say ‘nooooooo!!!!!’?

Or does a woman have the right to say ‘don’t choke/beat me to death’ oh no silly me.

How much does employment law protect people accepting porn jobs via text?

Oh, sorry, I see that's already been linked. Doh.

From an employment POV, this is interesting. Could this transwoman claim discrimination? Denied the role on account of the adopted gender? If there's a GC then is it possible to turn them down?

Also, this person has previously detransitioned... seems like a vulnerable person who probably shouldn't be accepting porn jobs off random texts.

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Now 100% Stonewall endorsed.

How a formally great charity has fallen to the disgusting idea that the right penis will convert a lesbian is frighting.
They have never condemned the idea that male transwomen wanting to fuck lesbians was even in the least bit problematic, this makes the complicit and homophobic.

This has echos of what happened in actual porn. Lesbian performer Lily Cade said no to a transwoman who wished to join in lesbian scenes (as I understand it, Ms Cade only ever does scenes with actual females in them). I believe it caused quite the kerfuffle at the time. Honestly the idea of male people with penises inflicting themselves on lesbians is gross and I am not quite sure how they get away with it as readily as the do

It's that male fantasy/belief that their penis is so great, so amazing, so utterly fantastic that shagging a lesbian will convert them (the lesbian)/it's the lust for the idea of shagging a lesbian, all coupled with the male sense of utter entitlement to sex.

It's discriminating against penis-havers to not want a penis inside you! How DARE anyone say no to someone because they've got a penis! Don't they know how bigoted that is??!

#sarcasm.

Will this get to court? I hope so. Anyhoo. Saw a trans woman used in a ‘we support trans’ ad by a tampon company. Posed in a ladies loo with a basked to sanpro. Why not a trans man?

The real one was the bloke who reported a burglar in his shed. Police said they didn't have the officers spare. He phoned back, said not to worry, he'd just shot them. Cops were there in minutes.