Should transgender women be allowed to play women's sports?

#qtwtain

What about some real science.

Men vs women speed.
www.statholesports.com/for-crying-out-loud-2019-biology-in-sports-matters/
“So there you have it. A good weekend wasted running a detailed analysis basically proving what nose-picking third graders already know. Biological males are faster than biological females. This take is so cold it could make a polar bear hypothermic.”

Men vs women vertical jump (measure of explosive power).
“The average vertical jump for men falls between 16 to 20 inches while it is around 12 to 16 inches for women. A good vertical jump is one that’s over 2 feet for males and over 20 inches for females.” The very best women can only jump as high as the lowest level of men. Obviously the best women might jump higher than the average keyboard warrior, but we’re talking about athletes here. Relative explosive power probably doesn’t count, no matter how furiously you type DIE TERF into Twitter.
theexercisers.com/how-to-increase-vertical-jump/average-vertical-jump/

Men vs women strength.
“Hand grip is one of the most widely-used markers for strength. The strongest 10% of females can only beat the bottom 10% of men! Weight for weight (lean body mass only), women’s grip remains pretty feeble compared to the men. These were large samples that included plenty of fit, young sportswomen with good upper body strength. Taking the 60 elite women separately, they were still only as good as an average to weak man.”
fairplayforwomen.com/biological-sex-differences/

So the answer is no. Men competing in women’s competitions are cheating. They are also intruding on women’s privacy. And I think most women know the joy of women-only activities, which are always made different by the inclusion of men.

Men need to recognise that if they wish to embrace the fantasy of transition, there will be spaces and activities denied to them.

Why do you all care so much may I ask?
Wow, women caring about other women. Who'd a thunk it, eh? You do realise that some feminists actually centre women and women's rights instead of being all about pleasing men?

Hmmmmm

Watching the athletics world championships recently, some of the female competitors were not very adherent to patriarchal norms of attractiveness.

Men have never taken women's sport seriously and always only been interested when the women competing are attractive.

Given femininity is a big deal when it comes to transitioning, is this possibly something men will be OK with?

Which would explain a lot tbh

Do you have any idea what it took for us to get Title VII in the US?

Girls not playing team sports was one of the justifications for discrimination against women in business. We were not "team players" you see because we did not have the team sports experience that the boys did. So naturally we had to be passed over for those positions that required leadership.

It makes me so angry when people compliment Caster Semenya for being gracious or heroic. Semenya is a blatant cheater and has known that she has a fully functioning xy body for years.

What morons could possibly think that is fair.

Oh that was to creepster.

Morning for you? Gone 3am here! I should go bed.

That's an American thing I think?

Women in some countries think still not allowed to compete.

Generally no, there's the trickier problem though of intersex athletes which need to be treated with compassion, some only discovered that they didn't have xx chromosomes as teens when their periods failed to start.

“Compassion” though, doesn’t mean ignoring the results found as a teenager and allowing that person to continue to race for 10 years and become double Olympic champion, denying women of opportunities in the process, before THEN stopping the person from competing, like they did with Semenya.

When they finally achieve men's sports and mixed sex sports by replacing women and girls with males who identify as a gender they will then have to create women's sports all over again or be in violation of Title VII.

Skimming a bit as late.
Not watched video.
Did op come back?

Testosterone levels are a total red herring. I get why so many orgs like them but. It's one little measure in a whole physiology.

Anyway. No men should not compete against women obv.

Sports are set up for men, male bodies. There are plenty of physical things women are better at. Endurance swimming and running, anything involving weight (horse racing), size or similar, or pain. They don't get into the Olympics (for some reason). So women needed a category they could compete equally in. Because sports were made for male bodies to win at. Seems a touch unfair to then have people with male bodies in the female category.

So let's add ultra running, endurance swimming, ear pulling (Inuit pain thing) and anything else women excel at to the major sporting events. No? Not a chance because it's not about equality or fairness, if it was we'd already have a sporting world where women's skills were celebrated like men's are.

They can modify and chop off as many body parts as they like but a man is a man and should not compete in women’s sports.

Why do you all have numbers in your usernames may I ask?

No. Even with hormones and whatever else they’re still built more masculine and like it or not men do tend to be bigger and stronger which is unfair.

Nope. If there are a significant number of trans individuals wanting to play pro or semi pro sports then great, let's make a league for them. They can't simply take over the one that's for women.

Unless they are jockeys - being a female body would help there I guess.

The question to ask is, why do MTF transsexuals want to compete against biological women when there is no evidence of FTM transsexuals wanting to compete against biological males?
The answer of course is because they stand no chance of winning due to their biology. Science trumps ideology every time.

No, obviously.

Watching that video though, I can't believe how ignorant some people are of the facts, and how anti-women the rest are. There is simply no argument in support of transwomen competing in womens sports that is informed and considerate of women.

No.

Generally no, there's the trickier problem though of intersex athletes which need to be treated with compassion, some only discovered that they didn't have xx chromosomes as teens when their periods failed to start.

noooooo

No