"My name is Jeremy Corbyn, and my pronouns are he/him"

I have a former friend who tried to convince me there was no anti-Semitism in the Labour Party and it's all just a right wing conspiracy to smear Magic Grandad.

Funny how all those Jewish Labour MPs keep talking about the impact it's having on them then, eh?

I'm belatedly reading The Times today - not sure if there's a thread anywhere about this (it's not specifically feminist but there does seem to be a group at the intersection of 'woman' and 'Jewish' (or anti- antisemitism ) who are particularly badly hit by Corbynism.

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/mp-louise-ellman-quits-labour-and-says-corbyn-is-a-danger-to-britain-j80htb5fv?shareToken=7cee3b231dcadd4b0d000e22f047be27

And we're supposed to give a flying fuck about his pronouns?

Indeed, we definitely needed a very tall, bearded individual whose past sexual relationship with at least one female politician is public knowledge to let us know that he's a bloke.

In the event that anyone was confused they'd only have to take note of the way he fobs off questions from and talks down to women to confirm that yes, indeed, he's definitely a man.

he’s a complete dullard who lacks any intellectual rigour
This.

Vicky my dad is of a similar age, and what flipped him from 'oh I don't really care, it doesn't affect me' to writing to his MP and signing petitions was the realisation of people born male with full tackle in toilets, changing rooms and hospital wards inflicted on his daughters and granddaughters.

Then I showed him some of the Madigan shenanigans and he got so incandescent he had to mow the lawn to calm down.

Core vote? Know a knob when they see one.

Shallow virtue signalling. Right up Corbyn's street that.

Also considered properly offensive and hurtful by many old school transsexuals. It's superfluous to requirements if no one who identifies as trans is present, but we can all virtue signal to each other to show how welcoming we are to those we know are not like us.

Also implies rather strongly that none of those others who are definitely not like us can't possibly be relied upon to quietly and politely tell us if we've got it wrong (usually not the pronouns but form of address) so we just blanket assume they all need special treatment.

Asking someone who identifies as trans for pronouns still just tells them that their transition has failed, that they're obviously not what they'd like to be and no amount of asking everyone else for their pronouns is going to change that.

And isn't that what some of the detransitioners were also talking about? That while their gender dysphoria was at its worst, they found this an oppressive, stressful practice?

But a self id’ed socialist leader of the labour Party damn well should understand about structural inequality and be able to recognise that identitarianism and viewing womanhood as a monetised consumer good is as rightwing as it gets. He should recognise neoliberalism on speed when he sees it. The man is not only a misogynist, he is also an unintelligent knob.

Correct.

Where exactly does Corbyn think his votes are coming from?

Indeed. He's lost mine, my brother's and his wife's (both lifelong Labour) and even my octogenarian Dad's (Dad is a former coal miner, ffs!).

All because they now know that Corbyn is happy to endanger women and girls. My Dad is thinly-read, bless him - but even he sees that allowing males into his granddaughters' changing room, toilets, etc. is something up with which he cannot put.

^ His lack of a decent education really shows

Adams Grammar was really well thought of back in the day^

So, either he's quite thick, or he squandered the chance of a good education. (Or both). Maybe he was too busy playing at student politics to be arsed learning? Is that where he's stuck at?

When you think of the kids, especially girls, who don't have the chance of a decent education, I've no time at all for people who waste their opportunities.

Can you imagine what the average working men's club would make of this middle class, self obsessed wankery?

Where exactly does Corbyn think his votes are coming from?

Is anyone else thinking that ten years ago a lot of people in the UK couldn't have said what a pronoun was?

What I don't understand is this. If eg someone like Aimee C thinks that when someone looks at them they think they're a woman, why the need to inform them of their pronoun? Surely it's only if their gender is queried that people would ask for a pronoun, and that could be considered very rude.

I think we've all met someone non-trans where we've wondered for a split second whether they're male or female. To directly ask them how they identify could be really embarrassing for them.

I'm currently choosing to use wanky/wanker for Jeremy's fucking pronouns.

Oh fgs Jeremy.

Frankly I'll pick the pronouns I use when mentioning you, and my personal choice right now is 'muppet' and 'anything at all but Labour'.

It is embarrasing that Corbyn panders to neoliberal autoritarianism.

Neoliberalism is an extreme rightwing ideology, and Labour plans to force people to comply with it.

I get that some people are rightwing, and choose to not give a damn about disadvantaged groups of people.

I also get that a lot of people have never learnt anything about structural analysis of inequality and oppression.

But a self id’ed socialist leader of the labour Party damn well should understand about structural inequality and be able to recognise that identitarianism and viewing womanhood as a monetised consumer good is as rightwing as it gets.

He should recognise neoliberalism on speed when he sees it.

The man is not only a misogynist, he is also an unintelligent knob.

Perhaps it has taken him this long to make the decision.

Other decisions, like his stance on Brexit, will have to wait.

As a lifelong labour voter I could never vote labour with "HIM" in charge. Why doesn't he just fuck off and give the party a fighting chance?

As others say, the hounding of women MPs, the lack of concern about all women shortlists. No need to tell us your pronouns, Jezza. Your adjectives are misogynistic and ineffectual.

IMO personal pronouns are un beau de lollox

His lack of a decent education really shows

Adams Grammar was really well thought of back in the day @TottieandMarchpane

Prick news is a hate group. But the pronouns thing in this context doesn’t bother me. It’s a trans organisation and this has become part of trans culture it seems.

Its kind of like an atheist having dinner with Christians, and bowing their head during Grace.

They don’t believe in God and may think saying Grace is ridiculous, but on a human level they are just showing respect for their friends.

I never “say my pronouns” but if others want to, no problem.

did he release blue balloons?

I read this on here recently:

Best response to being asked your pronouns? "Don't mind. Say what you see." The terror on their faces is highly amusing.

Corbyn is a twat and does woke, twattish things.

It's even worse than that. He's also a complete dullard who lacks any kind of intellectual rigour that I require in a party leader and potential PM.

Corbyn is a twat and does woke, twattish things.
Sure his mates in Hamas give their pronouns when they meet someone