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Sue Evans's court case against GIDS

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archery2 · 17/10/2019 01:17

I have written about this twice but both of the threads have disappeared. The second time I tried hard not to offend Mumsnet - even asking them simply to remove the wrongspeak in order to save me the fag of retyping the message again.

Well anyway: Sue Evans and an anonymous mother of an autistic 15 year old girl are taking GIDS to court over their puberty blocker treatment. Their ultimate goal is to convince the court that the blocker should only be implemented when a court has given its permission - ie it would be a case by case thing of going through the courts.

I'm probably going to mess up now, but taking the NHS to court is expensive and they are seeking financial contributions via a well-known income-seeking website that sounds a bit like Cloud-Trust-Hiss

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ChattyLion · 06/01/2020 10:11

Great article in the Times (thanks for the link Igneo) excellent that it mentions the crowdfunding.

I want to know how the professional bodies and the GMC (who regulate doctors practice) and also the BMA medical ethics committee (who set policy for doctors who are BMA members) will respond to this case. Isn’t part of the problem the lack of proper professional ethical guidance for doctors and psychologists and other relevant professional groups, which also takes into account the available evidence base on risk for patients?

By ethical guidance I mean this should be guidance which privileges informed consent, encourages research participation and which requires doctors to be making their patients a decent and defensible proposal for their treatment in the first place. All to be preceded and accompanied by careful mental health support etc. Medical and surgical approaches to only offered to patients aged 25 and above who have attained fully matured adult cognition of risk and benefit.

Patients will really not be helped by professional guidance that only offers their health care teams an authoritarian political mantra based on Stonelaw as a basis for treating patients.

nettie434 · 06/01/2020 07:18

Sue Evans is being interviewed on the Today programme now.

FannyCann · 05/01/2020 11:21

Oh OK Lang. Thanks. That hole just needs a bit of love, for some reason it hasn't attracted as many excavators as some of the others, though diggers have been digging many holes so a bit of fatigue is understandable.

OldCrone · 05/01/2020 11:18

I see Sue Evans' hole is still being dug for another four days.

There's a link to it from here:

mobile.twitter.com/sueevansprotect?lang=en

ChattyLion · 05/01/2020 11:07

I haven’t logged in to read the full article but it’s good (and unexpected) that the Guardian are covering this key case.
Hopefully the Guardian are trying to redress their own political bias around this area and they will be speaking up for children caught up in this adult political dogma now?

LangCleg · 05/01/2020 10:54

Oops, sorry. Yes! Observer!

Fanny - Crowdjustice cases generally reset to another 30 days when they "run out".

NotBadConsidering · 05/01/2020 10:40

Observer article. Not Guardian. You’d never see that published on a Monday.

FannyCann · 05/01/2020 10:35

I see Sue Evans' hole is still being dug for another four days. It's not such a big hole as some of the others. This is an incredibly important case. If she wins it could really put the brakes on the runaway train.

PurpleHoodie · 18/11/2019 08:58
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Macareaux · 17/11/2019 07:38

The deadline for filling this hole appears to have been extended.

CaptainKirksSpikeyGhost · 10/11/2019 10:20

Bumping this up

JoanOfQuarks · 10/11/2019 10:16

9 hours to go...

BessyK · 09/11/2019 21:35

Bump

MindTheMinotaur · 09/11/2019 21:02

17,000 shovelled and 21 hours to go. Last push.

MindTheMinotaur · 09/11/2019 18:06

16,951 shovelfuls. Hopefully will get a few more by the end of the day.

Joisanofthedales · 09/11/2019 15:13

I've helped with the hole.

theflushedzebra · 09/11/2019 15:06

I thought the woman on This Morning was really good - v measured and caring, and was v clear about how political lobbying is having an impact on the medical treatment on children with a range of mental health issues, not just gender dysphoria alone. Plus the risks of infertility.

I noticed how Phil and Holly spent a lot of time in the interview looking down. As they have both previously seemed very supportive of the Susie Green/Mermaids approach to "trans children" - I wonder if they found this uncomfortable listening, because she was being so reasonable.

PurpleHoodie · 09/11/2019 14:10

Grin It's all for the good Galvantula

Galvantula · 09/11/2019 14:07

Done. Possibly twice as the site went wonky during payment probably due to crap mobile signal here!

PurpleHoodie · 09/11/2019 14:04

What Carriemac said.

Carriemac · 09/11/2019 11:40

bumped as this is masively important

TheProdigalKittensReturn · 09/11/2019 11:28

Share token for the article Errol was having trouble with.

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/tavistock-clinic-my-daughter-cant-understand-the-risk-says-mother-jr59vz0ck?shareToken=b23add127497ab98be1809dc824a5b2b

PurpleHoodie · 09/11/2019 11:11

Have donated. Thanks for this thread.

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