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Babyjakesmum · 16/10/2019 19:10

I haven't been on Mumsnet in a while, but have dropped back in to see what was going on when I heard about the sponsors dropping Mumsnet because of anti-trans hate. I expected it to be a storm in a tea cup.

But sadly, I have to say that I find the level of bitter hatred on here to be utterly breathtaking. I have trans people in my family. I have friends who have trans people, and the way they are being discussed here is simply appalling.

Being trans isn't something anyone takes lightly, or lives lightly either. It's is not mental illness, it is not an excuse to abuse children, it is not a passing fad. It is bloody hard on those who find themselves in that situation, and this sort of hate-fest of ignorance and accusation only makes their lives even harder.

I used to come on here to talk about my babies and life as a Mum, and it was supportive and safe space for me to talk openly about my feelings and experiences. It no longer feels safe for anyone. I don't think I will be coming back to be a regular again. I cannot comprehend what has become of the people on here for this level of narrow mindedness to be flourishing.

Make no mistake, I am an old school, campaigning, hard-bitten feminist, and have been since before half the people on here were born. I understand the feminist anti-trans arguments but I find all of it to be empty of any basis in reality. Trans people aren't lurking in changing rooms, trans people aren't after your kids or trying to undermine your own femininity. They are having a very hard time in life.

I know you can cite a handful of examples, but then there are always a handful of example of anything. One Karen White does not mean you write off all trans-people as criminals.

I would say to you to get to know an actual transperson and see what the reality is, except that I wouldn't want any vulnerable person subjected to this.... you also probably do already know a transperson somewhere in your life, but most don't wear a badge to tell you that because it's actually none of your business what clothes or pronouns someone chooses to use.

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zebrasdontwearbras · 19/10/2019 11:33

No, it was women who messed up the Bunbury decamp. It is a sad fact that the trans movement is supported by some vocal women.

To them, everything's fine - they have benefitted, their whole lives, from the rights their grandmothers fought for - and so now feel comfortable enough to include certain males in their feminism. I do not.

VickyEadieofThigh · 19/10/2019 11:30

Wherever we go, they will track us down and insist we not be allowed to speak.

ThighThighOfthigh · 19/10/2019 11:26

I'm not sure it was men who objected to the Bunbury decamp.

I suppose the act of forming into cliques is horrible to those who are not in the clique.

Disclaimer: We don't exclude anyone.

ThighThighOfthigh · 19/10/2019 11:23

No Lung we fucked it up for ourselves by marauding. I'm sure it is annoying for some people when you're trying to make points to have a Thigh pop in and talk about piss. You got to know us but if you hadn't you'd be thinking wtaf. I get it, honestly.

LangCleg · 19/10/2019 11:18

Bunbury was sort of the place for that - and of course next door to the Thighs in the secret place - but we were invaded there too as I recall

I feel bad that we have fucked it up for the Thighs. It's like spreading the misery.

TheProdigalKittensReturn · 19/10/2019 10:54

"Men are afraid women are going to laugh at them, women are afraid men are going to kill them."

VickyEadieofThigh · 19/10/2019 10:53

Women are being prevented from discussing our rights in all places, at all times.

It's shocking.

zebrasdontwearbras · 19/10/2019 10:20

Bunbury was sort of the place for that - and of course next door to the Thighs in the secret place - but we were invaded there too as I recall Sad Although I was on hols at the time, so I just came back to find an empty house and tumbleweed.

Women! You shall not use humour to make your point! Ve have vays of stopping you talk.....

ThighThighOfthigh · 19/10/2019 10:14

You could set up a new thread called chit chat for the hilarious.

ThighThighOfthigh · 19/10/2019 10:12

We're just setting up a forge back home so don't worry about that.

TheProdigalKittensReturn · 19/10/2019 10:07

Don't forget the guns! Very popular with woke gendered Americans.

zebrasdontwearbras · 19/10/2019 10:05

The young woke are very good at gifs. They have a gif for every occasion.

Also very good at mocking up memes threatening violence to women - they excel at those.

Many of them seem to enjoy posing with baseball bats and swords. Young males, mainly, unsurprisingly.

TheProdigalKittensReturn · 19/10/2019 10:04

Well, TRAs seem to think that threats are funny, so...

BernardBlacksWineIceLolly · 19/10/2019 10:03

uh oh

ThighThighOfthigh · 19/10/2019 09:51

Dull people generally think they're hilarious......oh....fuck.

BernardBlacksWineIceLolly · 19/10/2019 09:47

It makes me think of that Mitchell and Webb sketch - 'are we the baddies?'

if you're on the side of desperately trying to squash down irreverence, wit and absurdity, if seeing those things makes you wish to have them expunged from the internet, you need to have a very good think about why you're behaving that way.

at best it means you're dull. at worst, you might be a baddie

EmpressLesbianInChair · 19/10/2019 09:39

Loving Woko Haram.

BeMoreMagdalen · 19/10/2019 09:18

Is it like Python, and the monks walking along whacking themselves in the head?

TheProdigalKittensReturn · 19/10/2019 09:14

If you accidentally have fun presumably you're meant to do some sort of penance.

wrongsideofhistorymyarse · 19/10/2019 09:13

Woko haram are desperately po faced. What happened to enjoying life?

LangCleg · 19/10/2019 08:56

Having a sense of humour involves being able to spot inconsistencies and call out pomposity.

Literal violence.

LadyCarolinePooterVonThigh · 19/10/2019 07:24

Strict conformity and repression cannot coexist with humour. Having a sense of humour involves being able to spot inconsistencies and call out pomposity.

DancelikeEmmaGoldman · 19/10/2019 06:50

have been strongly warned that comedic relief can be considered inflammatory on FWR

I’m not surprised. The coalition of The woke have evidenced many qualities, but a sense of humour and capacity for wit are none of them.

ThighThighOfthigh · 19/10/2019 05:39

I'm awesome at parking, I'm a hardcore heavy metal parker.

Datun · 18/10/2019 23:30

plus my laptop doesn't have a caps lock button so all that upper case typing was exhausting

See, you can talk about women with penises all the live long day, but this is truly unbelievable.