Trans chat

Upfield - No. The name is "taken" even if you de-reg.

Yes - and she does have genuine posts from a few years ago.
Just a thought, but if someone deletes their account, surely someone else can join and use the discarded name?

I doubt OP has been banned - what guidelines did she break?

Yes - and she does have genuine posts from a few years ago.

I doubt OP has been banned - what guidelines did she break?

Yes it is totally rife on here. We don't need to understand other people to be kind to them. I got shouted down for suggesting some trans people don't opt for a full sex change and hope for more rights as trans gender because they don't want to end up with potentially mutilated bits that don't work (happens a lot).

The hatred is real and some women on here and very bitter, shaming and full of hate for whatever reason.

I've always had the opinion that what you do to yourself is up to you. The only part of the trans movement I don't agree with is the loose regulations or 'rules' around it all. I think this needs to be outlined so society knows where it stands. That aside, saying things like 'what is HE doing on that list. It's a womans list, HE is a man, not a woman. Why do we have to put up with this?'. YOU don't have to put up with anything love as you'll never make it onto a list for anything being closed minded and spouting hate

And on another sad note - the Democrats have fucked themselves now. If they don't manage to impeach Trump, he'll be in in 2020 too. Great! Another 4 years of Trump being the most powerful man in the world.

You're confused, OP. If you want to talk to the people who are concerned about something 'undermining their femininity' you'll need to find and post on a femininity forum.

This is a feminIST forum.
I know it's easy to mix up words when they look similar. But sometimes they mean very different things.

Interesting that you identify as a feminist.
I don't observe you to be such.
Perhaps you meant to identify as a #femininityist?

I think this is lesson for every woman, really

”...a woke-scold..” - that is my word of the year, @OvaHere!

I agree totally that Karen White is a really bad exemplar. That person seems very unlikely to be trans. They're just a violent sexual offender. Nothing like any of the transwomen I've ever personally met.

SO HOW THE FUCK did Karen white who isnt trans and is a really bad example of anything end up able to assault vulnerable female criminals? How did that happen? That's the question. That's why Karen White is brought up as a 'gotcha'. Not because we think KW is trans, but because KW obviously WASN'T trans, and yet ended up in prison with women who, there but for the grace of God, are just like us.

OvaHere "wokescold", that's exactly what it is! What's the point of plopping and wokescolding anyway?

I would say to you to get to know an actual transperson

I was married to an actual transperson for 13 years. So I've had a front row seat, so to speak.

Your "arguments" and one liners are posted here every week. There's always a "new" appalled person telling everyone off for not being nice enough and then flouncing. Nothing new to see here.

Unless you come up with some specific examples OP or explain why it’s hateful to object to biological males playing in women’s sport despite a large physical advantage, why it’s hateful for women and girls to want privacy whilst changing or sleeping, or why traumatised women in domestic violence centres should have to share with biological men then I just can’t be bothered. Over to you.

This.

Also, I'm 61 and have genuinely 'been a feminist since before some posters were born - I'm going to bet I'm probably old enough to be the OP's mother.

I note she's given no actual arguments other than the tried and trusted 'you're horrid, you're just nasty to transwomen' tropes.

OP you haven’t answered any of my reasonable questions. I didn’t think you would as I don’t think you have any. Bluntly if you can’t articulate clearly a position on the 3 simple questions beyond ‘don’t be nasty’ then there is not much point in you posting here.

Both your posts smack of goady screenshot fodder, and neither give any indication that you have given any thought whatsoever to any of the subtleties of this issue and its impact on women’s rights-remember, the ones you’re always being so “hard bitten” about?

You sound the dog whistle that all we believe is that “trans people are abusers”? What a load of bollocks: women fear the impact of self ID not actually because even a few hundred THOUSAND trans identifying men may use women’s hard won spaces; it’s because 33,000,000 men in this country will have the absolute, unchallengeable right to stroll into women’s spaces and do whatever the fuck they like and you, as a hard bitten feminist and all, might just consider that a few of those 33,000,000 men might not be nice blokes, be they sporting trousers or fucking twinsets. if you genuinely have trans friends and family, stop and think of the backlash that ‘genuine’ trans are going to face when more of the bad eggs, however they identify, realise that the protections around women have been torn down and replaced with ‘Help Yourself’ signs.

I have said what I wanted to say and I am going to leave it at that.

So you just came here to be a wokescold then? Not to actually engage with any differing views, even from those women who took time to outline their concerns and politely humour you despite such a pompous opening post.

Gosh, we've never seen that before!

I have seen all these arguments before, and I just do not agree them

For Christ's sake - so you don't agree with"our" arguments - so you think male sexual predators should be able to identify as women, and be placed in women's prisons? To the extent that women prisoners are routinely handed the MAP ?

I despair. I don't think you can be any sort of feminist, hardbitten or otherwise, if you think that's ok.

1)You women are bitter.
2)Watch your tone.

If the OP deigns to come back for more, can we expect some NAMALT? We've already had the suggestion that feminists are worried about challenges to their femininity, so perhaps OP will suggest we should all try finding out which palette works best for our colouring when we are lucky enough to get hubby to babysit the kids for a while.