Hilary and Chelsea Clinton discuss trans issues

But I think also Democrats such as AOC, who doesn’t come from privilege I don’t think, parrot the TWAW line.

Interesting comment from Hillary though. It displays she's aware of the issues and choosing her words carefully.
It's also making me wonder if she ever visits FWR and which one of you she is.

Seriously. Snatching defeat from the jaws of victory. I wish Nancy Pelosi would take out a gag order on the clintons. And I wish Joe Biden would just simply go away.

The Democrats seem determined to lose the next election at the moment. Which would be bad enough at any time, but is particularly unwise when facing down a potential second term for an orange wrecking ball in a bad wig.

Chelsea Clinton has more privilege than most wealthy americans. She will never share a hospital room with anyone - still less a man. No surprise that she lacks the imagination to consider the other poorer people live.

I have to say though that my own daughters would say the same as her (I suspect). they are younger than her but their generation has utterly swallowed the TWAW line. I would go so far as to say that they would regard it as shocking to say trans woman are not women as saying women are not the equal of men. After a couple of blazing arguments about it, I no longer engage directly with them on the issue but talk around the edges of the topic - sports teams/women's experience with their bodies etc. I hope it will have some effect.

When my dd2 was in 8th grade, her class was matched with pre-k buddies (very sweet it was too). One of those pre-k kids was a boy who identified as a girl and was now living as a girl (wearing long hair and dresses and going by a different name) - I'm all for the kid doing whatever they wanted but they all semed to believe that this made him a girl.

On an unrelated topic I wish to god (and for the sake of the Democratic party) that Hillary Clinton, Chelsea Clinton and Bill Clinton would just shut up and sit down where we can't see them.

Chelsea comes from a life of extreme privilege. She had never had to face hardship or know what it is like in the actual real world. She lives in fairy land.

Why would anyone be "thrilled" that the health service in a country they don't live in has done something that many people in that country are vehemently objecting to? What a bizarrely entitled statement.

‘What is a 'trans child'?’ I take that as modern speak for ‘my boy likes pink/my girl likes blue/my kid looks like they will be gay when the get older’.

Remember a few years back when every other kid seemed to have ADHD?

I read that Chelsea is thinking of running for Congress next year in a soon-to-be-vacant NY seat. She must find it expedient to appear all aboard current party orthodoxy. But she also comes across as a true believer. If only we had AWS here so she could cheer for the likes of Clymer taking her spot on one...

Anyone who is capable of thinking 'what if my child were trans' needs to think about what is actually meant by that phrase. What is a 'trans child'?

I think she's capable of thinking 'what if my child were trans' but not 'what if my daughter were in prison or a refuge' because it's highly unlikely a daughter of hers ever would be.

Chelsea is friends with Charlotte Clymer. Says it all.

Doesn’t it just?

The blindness to how this inclusion will be abused is commonplace amongst so many otherwise intelligent people at the moment.

I was genuinely shocked by the "Ye-es. Yes." response. Has she honestly NEVER heard the points made to her before? Actually considered the feminist case? Really thought through her comments on wards and kids playing sport?

It's quite distressing to see someone so intelligent so completely drink the Kool-Aid.

Chelsea Clinton demonstrates yet again that trans ideology is the most classist movement going.

Chelsea is one of the wealthiest, most pampered and privileged women, nay people, anywhere on Earth. She will never be sick and vulnerable next to random strangers, she will always have a private room so she doesn't have to worry that the random stranger will be a man.

Either she is too dim to look beyond her own, incredibly pampered upbringing, or she is so nasty that she is knowingly and willingly throwing poorer, more vulnerable women and children under a bus.

Either way she is a embarrassment to herself.

Chelsea probably has future political ambitions and by that time the landscape and what is considered good optics may have shifted somewhat.

I think I read a nib that her possible selection as candidate somewhere is in the offing.

She has Several kids? Daughters I presume?
Way to go mom. When her mum was banging on the glass ceiling and fighting for her place in a ‘male’ profession?

Pick me, pick me,
pleease pick me behaviour.

The menz must be delighted at the continuing compliance of women, especially younger women.

Just another example of their blind capitulation.
Must be such a breeze being a man.

Hillary I imagine has enough experience to know how entrenched positions on social issues can come back to bite you further down the line especially if there is a public record attached to them. Chelsea probably has future political ambitions and by that time the landscape and what is considered good optics may have shifted somewhat. She would be wise to take note of her mother's more diplomatic, non committal response.

On Baroness Nicholson's Twitter thread about this issue last week, a woman mentioned that she'd been raped at the age of 17 on a mixed-sex mental health ward. I wonder what Chelsea Clinton would say to her. Perhaps like Ruth Hunt she thinks that rapists are gonna rape.

This is a woman who grew up with Secret Service bodyguards, she may still have them for all I know. She will never find herself on a publicly funded, overcrowded, understaffed hospital ward with strange men. Or in any other situation where she is very vulnerable. She's obviously intelligent in an academic sense but her attitude is very 'let them eat cake'.

Oh, Hillary, all that money on an expensive education was clearly wasted.

I just hope Chelsea's own daughter calls her out in the future for sacrificing women and girls' rights on the altar of political ambition. What a 'deplorable' family.

Well she is American. So who knows? Attitudes are different.

There will be some women who look back on their public utterances with shame, especially ones who have political ambition. The media never forget, so talking your way out of a hole like insisting women have penises and women should have no privacy from said men could end up being rather difficult. I hope so, or at least I hope the climate becomes so.

You can be intelligent but still ignorant! Why not keep her mouth out? Say it don’t really know the UK situation? Typical ‘I know better’ attitude.