Men only job

You know you're all getting angry at a fictional situation right? Op was wondering about a fictional situation which she invented, everyone is foaming at the mouth about something that didn't happen. Check your bigotry guys.

There is no such thing are gender based equality, it is based on sex.

Do they want someone of the male gender or the male sex? I'm assuming the latter is the case.

Sam Smith would be eligible to apply and would be protected since he is a biological man. The non binary crowd identify as their biological sex when it suits them, for example the non binary biological female who was on a shortlist for women's fiction.

Plus if you advertise a man only post you will get nothing like the kicking off, or scary people shouting Ma'am at you that you will from male born people if you dare suggest something is for women only.

Agree with pp. It's men - men get support under the equality act. People identifying as men are in fact female, females never get taken that seriously and people have no difficulty at all saying no to them.

When it comes to women's single sex provision the same rules apply - females don't get taken seriously and people have no difficulty saying no to them, so men get to overcome the equality act.

The trans privilege thing only applies to people born male and only works against people born female. It's almost like everyone knows what sex everyone else is, as if there's ingrained sexism favouring the male sex and disadvantaging women, and there was a reason for the single sex provision in the first place...….

Ads for women only services generally seem to advertise for anyone who ids as a woman

Some look for non men ie include nkn binary

"The law allows this exemption, the general public understand and support it, it's just the trans ideology that doesn't."

All women's services are becoming inclusive of transwomen.

I don't expect men's services are inclusive of transmen, tho, somehow.

But it's different. It's a mans space that they are protecting, so they will apply the equality act correctly.

Should be easy enough to filter out at interview.
Q: what would you do to help men feel at ease with you?
Right-sex-HCP: well, I'd try to engage them in conversation about how their day's going etc etc
TRA-HCP: Transphobia! If they don't feel at ease with me they're bigots! Reeducate them!

In sensitive circumstances such as this it would be lawful to refuse someone who identified as male but who was biologically female. Same goes for sensitive job roles such as rape crisis support workers - it is lawful to not accept applications from trans women.

In very restricted circumstances it is lawful for an organisation to provide a different service or to refuse the service to someone who is undergoing or has undergone gender reassignment

Info taken from: www.equalityhumanrights.com/en/advice-and-guidance/gender-reassignment-discrimination#lawful

One of my biggest concerns is Stonewall etc being very cagey about these EA exemptions and whether they are campaigning to remove them.

I'm actually very interested to see what happens with this, the TRAs hate women having their space but men are usually allowed theirs. It would be interesting if this place got the usual push back or pile on for being specific in their job ad.

The employer shouldn't accept applications from women or women who identify as men.

Men are entitled to single sex support just as women are, women don't want men who think they are women doing smear tests just as men don't want a women who think they are men doing prostate exams. Some men actually might prefer women for that but the point is this job is for men only, so no women allowed.

The law allows this exemption, the general public understand and support it, it's just the trans ideology that doesn't.

Well logically they would have to be considered for the job,

As even though this is an area where single sex exemptions are allowed

In practice, everything seems to have gone self id

I assume that tras would agitate if the org did not accept a self id application.