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TransgenderTrend.co.uk

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Qcng · 08/10/2019 14:26

If you enter TransgenderTrend.co.uk you get redirected to Mermaids.com.

Some tech person bought the URL and did this in spite. (Please not may or may not have been someone at Mermaids themselves)

Their actual web address is
Transgendertrend.com but obviously they're not exactly funded by the hugely wealthy so they didn't buy the .co.uk domain as well as the .com. C
Mermaids and the AWA/TRA are laughing about it. These guys are so pathetic. There are so many of them in tech too...

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stumbledin · 08/10/2019 23:57

transgendertrend.org.uk was only registered last week - and in the UK.

I am not meaning to be negative but in terms of costs as a UK based group they would have done better to register with UK names, eg .org.uk - but as they say they are registered as a company .co.uk

Both of which are cheaper to register than .com or .net as they are intented for US based commercial organisations.

As long as search for transgendertrend still returns the .com address as the top search result there isn't a problem.

But they can appeal to ICAN that the registrations are intentionally hostile and they can prove they have established the name as a campaigning group with a particular message.

This is the whois registration for the .org.uk address if they want to try appealing directly to the American company or use the ICANN appeal system for both via link I listed above.

Whois Information

Domain name:
    transgendertrend.org.uk

Data validation:
    Nominet was not able to match the registrant's name and/or address against a 3rd party source on 06-Oct-2019

Registrar:
    Namecheap, Inc. [Tag = NAMECHEAP-INC]
    URL: <a class="break-all" href="https://www.namecheap.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.namecheap.com</a>

Relevant dates:
    Registered on: 06-Oct-2019
    Expiry date:  06-Oct-2020
    Last updated:  06-Oct-2019

Registration status:
    Registered until expiry date.

Name servers:
    dns1.registrar-servers.com
    dns2.registrar-servers.com

WHOIS lookup made at 23:41:45 08-Oct-2019

This WHOIS information is provided for free by Nominet UK the central registry
for .uk domain names. This information and the .uk WHOIS are:

Have just checked and am sad to say Nominet who are responsible for uk domain name registration do not seem to have a process to object to cyber squatting which is a shame. But it may be worth contacting them as the group is UK based and the 2 addresses that are being used maliciously are the UK ones. www.nominet.uk/

And the hosting companies who are presumably facilitating the redirection service.

It would be could if they were using the UK web addresses as they would give better search returns.

Each one would only be around £8 a year, cheaper than the US commercial addresses they are using.

Datun · 08/10/2019 23:32

Shouldn’t Mermaids have something to say about this?

Perhaps they're waiting until The Times includes this example of their ethics in their next article.

OldCrone · 08/10/2019 22:12

transgendertrend.org.uk goes to Mermaids as well.

Qcng · 08/10/2019 21:57

I have never understood why feminist campaigning groups dont learn some of the basics about how the internet work

Transgendertrend have registered
.com
.net
And
.org

.co.uk on top of that was going to cost a mostly volunteer-based grassroots organisation twice as much.

They understand fine. They didn't expect the .co.uk URL to be abused by TRAs.

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stumbledin · 08/10/2019 18:28

Or they could appeal to ICANN

www.icann.org/resources/pages/cybersquatting-2013-05-03-en

stumbledin · 08/10/2019 18:26

I think everyone is being a bit taken in by yet another well placed pro trans story.

If you google transgendertrend the top search result is still transgendertrend.com

If of any reason they stop being the top search result the best thing to do is complain to google or whoever via their feedback form that they are given false search results.

From looking at the entry on the WHOIS database, the dot co dot uk name was registered back in 2018 and renewed again this year.

Suspect it never came to anything but does now because everybody including mumsnet is giving it publicity which is exacty what Mermaids et al want!

The problem with twitter is that hardly anybody used it but those who do seem to think it is the source of all info and in fact make it more important than it is by repeating its rubbish!

This might seem a bit off topic but they should never have registered as a .com - this implies they are a US based commercial, ie money making organisation.

As does registering as .co.uk except UK based.

I have never understood why feminist campaigning groups dont learn some of the basics about how the internet work. A bit like the thread on google that made it seem google was a valid index library rather than a collection of the loudest voices on the internet.

transgendertrend are probably loosing lots of results in search engines who will exclude them on the basis that the extension implies it is a commercial ie money making concern, if say someone has searched for a campaign.

Domain names eg .org.uk (meaning charity or not for profit) are about £8 a year.

If transgendertrend think it is seriously impacting them as opposed to it being a manufactured twitter storm they could maybe contact 1and1 who registerd the .co.uk name and point out it is being misused.

This is the whois lookup results:

Domain name:
transgendertrend.co.uk

Data validation:
Nominet was able to match the registrant's name and address against a 3rd party data source on 24-Apr-2018

Registrar:
1&1 Ionos SE [Tag = 1AND1]
URL: www.1and1.co.uk

Relevant dates:
Registered on: 12-Jun-2019
Expiry date: 12-Jun-2020
Last updated: 12-Jun-2019

Registration status:
Registered until expiry date.

Name servers:
ns1024.ui-dns.org
ns1046.ui-dns.biz
ns1082.ui-dns.com
ns1101.ui-dns.de

WHOIS lookup made at 18:12:06 08-Oct-2019

whois.net/

KatvonHostileExtremist · 08/10/2019 18:03

I think it's good.

More ammunition for us. Think how this looks? More attempts to silence women.

TRAs never cease to amaze me with their lack of self perception. I thought this clip from family guy was funny, kind of sums it up.

TransgenderTrend.co.uk
Aberhonddu · 08/10/2019 17:50

Ask not as

Aberhonddu · 08/10/2019 17:50

I emailed Mermaids yesterday to as what was happening, many I'll just email them on the hour every hour until I get a reply.
Luckily I've got the time to do that.

CadburysTastesVileNow · 08/10/2019 17:03

cyber-squatting, isn't it?

CaptainKirksSpikeyGhost · 08/10/2019 16:39

Not sure if TT have the funds but is this a copyright issue?

Well it's using the name of one charity to lead to another, so it's fraud.

www.actionfraud.police.uk/reporting-fraud-and-cyber-crime

Ali1cedowntherabbithole · 08/10/2019 16:30

Not sure if TT have the funds but is this a copyright issue?

I've a vague memory of people registering .com domains for names like John Lewis (as an example) to try to make money and it ending up in court cases. Hoping someone will be along with a better memory.

HandsOffMyRights · 08/10/2019 16:09

Given the impact that Mermaids' data breach had on families, Susie was quoted (quoting the newspaper) as taking the mistake 'extremely seriously'. It's concerning therefore if she finds this sabotage less than serious. Imagine a young person accessing TransgenderTrend and then being pushed onto a completely different site with its own MO.

Just a reminder of the breach, as quoted from the source:

CEO Susie Green uploaded the personal emails from parents to a public website

Parents have slammed is as a fundamental breach of trans children's privacy

Details about treatment, full names and telephone numbers were disclosed

Mermaids said it is taking the 'mistake' extremely seriously and is cooperating with an Information Commission investigation

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7145411/Parents-fury-transgender-charity-Mermaids-publishes-private-emails-online.html

Themyscira · 08/10/2019 15:32

Saddos, the lot of em.

Michelleoftheresistance · 08/10/2019 15:31

They’re a legitimate charity right? In receipt of public funds via the lottery. They should be above this sort of behaviour surely?

Not to mention hand in glove with govt, police, et al.

Yes, you'd think there was such a thing as public standards for such organisations, but due diligence seems to be something Westminster's dog ate a couple of years back. Oh for the days when politics involved people who'd reached actual emotional adulthood.

CaptainKirksSpikeyGhost · 08/10/2019 15:29

It's not going to cause as big an issue as a few years ago.

Qcng · 08/10/2019 15:27

Dr Harrop isn't exactly known to young gender confused youths or parents trying to help their children. I don't think he even has a website of his own at all. But ok, if it's like that,
Just for laffs

www.drharrop.co.uk

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Qcng · 08/10/2019 15:23

From what I gather, Suzie Green thinks it's funny, and is denying direct involvement.

Oh tiz all so funny sterilizing kidz and hijacking domain names for my own personal gain tra la la...

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Aposterhasnoname · 08/10/2019 15:22

Someone has also bought drhartop.co.uk and redirected it to the peak trans website 😃

BernardBlacksWineIceLolly · 08/10/2019 15:22

Shouldn’t Mermaids have something to say about this?

This

They’re a legitimate charity right? In receipt of public funds via the lottery. They should be above this sort of behaviour surely?

NonnyMouse1337 · 08/10/2019 15:22

Ah typical juvenile behaviour. Fearless keyboard warriors that they are. Such sophisticated levels of 'activism'.

It only proves the point that a lot of them are starting to worry that despite their efforts, it's getting harder to contain truth and facts.

Lies and propaganda do disseminate quickly and easily, especially in the age of social media, but truth and facts will always catch up one way or another. The slogans and slurs are wearing thin and the general public are getting exasperated by the sheer nonsense that is being peddled by the TRAs.

Qcng · 08/10/2019 15:20

WYP would be knocking if it were the other way round.

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Whatisthisfuckery · 08/10/2019 15:20

Shouldn’t Mermaids have something to say about this? If any other organisation wa getting redirects from a web site purporting to be for another organisation surely they wouldn’t be happy?

Honestly, I can’t understand how anybody can look at Mermaids and their supporters and think what they’re doing is right.

DickKerrLadies · 08/10/2019 15:11

I can just imagine the reaction if this was the other way round...