Someone I have never heard of has announced they are transgender and it's really upset the community

Huh? Is it time of this one again?

But ‘if somebody says they are trans then they are trans’ and gender identity has nothing to do with gender stereotypes apparently- women can have beards, men can be feminine and so on. So what are they getting angry about? Surely they have to accept that TP is transgender as there is no criteria beyond saying you identify one way or another.

CHAT CHAT CHAT hooray!

I thought the first bit of their video (pronoun check) was interesting actually. That IS what many teenage girls feel.

I think really they are talking about gender. It is all bollocks after all! Anyone gender free (like many of us) are trans by the stonewall definition.

I think the transphobia shown against them is horrific.

There’s this thing called ‘chatting’ Theresa

Some people like to do it on chat sites

Does that help?

'someone I don't know' doesn't affect you in any way.... Point of thread?

TP is a well known wind up merchant. I can see why TRAs are angry but also acceptance without exception and all that.

Wasn't there a thing where straight women wrote/read a lot of gay fan fiction on the internet? The attraction being, for a hetero female, all of the sexy man stuff without the misogyny. A respite from women being depicted as objects for male consumption, rarely allowed to have their own agency or desires.

Whilst being hetero is undoubtedly still more acceptable in society, for women there is something of a paradox in being attracted to members of the class which oppresses us.

There's no discernible difference between 'T' and someone like Danielle Muscato other than we are all clearly expected to take individuals with a Y chromosome a lot more seriously. No change there really.

My favourite of this identity flipping is the male opera singer who has transitioned to being a transwoman and now breaks barriers as a woman getting and performing male operatic roles.

www.classicfm.com/music-news/first-transgender-woman-us-opera/

In other words, a male opera singer performing male roles.

If that's not brave and stunning I don't know what is.

What a lovely guy. Do haddock and LOJ know he is now available for relationship purposes? I do hope so.

She identifies as a gay man (this week). She is a man because she only puts full-on makeup on when she wants to 'put on a show', like drag queens do. Good lord. She's confused. Fallen victim to her own stereotypes.
I do sympathise with her though, I can see that she's struggling with the 'female experience', where women struggle so much- thanks to men- that she's trying to identify out of being a woman rather than aligning herself with feminism and realising there is so much more to being a woman than dressing up as a male's interpretation of one. What a mess.

Makes perfect sense according to the ideology.

Apparently none of it is stereotypes. So her identifying as a man is a completely normal inner feeling. Her identifying as a man who likes to dress as a woman, is also completely normal. Lots of men like to dress as women.

In fact right now, I'm exactly the same. I'm a woman, identifying as a man, identifying as a woman. As any fule can tell.

Someone commented :

“i’m trans because i’ve always loved having short hair” like what...? um anyway...

Isn't that what trans is? Like stereotypes etc because it isn't Biology apparently hhhmm

She has every bit as much right to say she is trans as any of them.

I’d assumed she was taking the pee. After all if that guy with a beard can be a woman because he “feels like one”, then logical conclusion is that a woman with long blond hair, face full of make up and ultra “feminine” risqué clothing can be a man.

It’s fine for manly men to say they are a woman, but a woman saying they feel like a man who dresses as a woman is not allowed.It’s moving beyond parody

When I was younger I used to imagine that if I was a man I'd be gay. Human beings are complex and feelings about the self are too. There is nothing new in this; except now the TRANS movement thinks it has invented the wheel, and in doing so takes itself far too seriously, and literally.

It’s fine for manly men to say they are a woman, but a woman saying they feel like a man who dresses as a woman is not allowed.

Exactly what I thought aswell. Now I'm not saying I "believe" her however men seem to be believed without question or else anyone saying otherwise is transphobic but these same people can say she's lying for attention? interesting indeed...not surprising of course, just kind of cements the fact that this is all about men stamping on women

Double standards, they all love a “woman” with a beard and penis.

Why are people mad about it (genuine question)? Many TW continue to look more manly, than this person looks womanly.

As long as women who need female-only spaces can access them, I cannot see any reason to criticise or judge.

What I want to know is where all the gay kids have gone. Statistics in the UK suggest that 6-7% of people are gay, so 6-7 pupils out of every 100. Where are they? All being shuttled along on the trans-train?

She may be taking the piss, but the piss really needs to be taken

This is simply taking the advice one of the old-fashioned TS once gave to test this ludicrous transgender nonsense - for a woman to identify as a man who identifies as a woman.

Acceptance without exception means questioning that is transphobic.

No less transphobic btw than trans privilege activists being apoplectic about Charlie saying she is a detransitioner without ever medically transitioning.

As if they've never heard about social transitions. Apparently a big deal. Apparently one does not have to medically transition to be trans. Apparently one does not even have to have gender dysphoria to be trans.

But when someone comes along who has GD and who has socially transitioned who then stops doing that, then it turns out they're not trans after all. Not without medically transitioning.

That community polices itself a lot harder than we do. Maybe they should get some acceptance training from Stonewall.

She's not circumgender then?