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More nonsense from The Guardian

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pachyderm · 08/10/2019 07:40

www.theguardian.com/society/2019/oct/07/innout-trans-woman-harassment-california

No comments allowed of course. No empathy for the women frightened and threatened by a large male person in their space. A misleading cartoon picturing a woman who in no way resembles said large male person.

They also have a piece this week about how empowering Japanese rope bondage is. I shouldn't even click on the paper any moreAngry

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TheProdigalKittensReturn · 08/10/2019 08:29

Do you get a free lecture about what a bigot you are with every copy?

KatvonHostileExtremist · 08/10/2019 08:28

Oh look! Lafemmes next ep is due out on the 25th October!

KatvonHostileExtremist · 08/10/2019 08:23

"After this terrible 30 second, non violent, experience, the poor oppressed person could not work in any shape or form, and needs you to pay them all your money"

zanahoria · 08/10/2019 08:19

The Guardian only cares about it's American market these days If any other British institution behaved in that way they would be writing finger wagging articles about how they had been captured by American corporate interests.

HumptyDumptyHadAGreatFall · 08/10/2019 08:17

Why do women always have to fight for their rights?
Just as we're getting to a good place, the battle begins all over again. Men take us back and give us more we once again have so much to fight against them for! Can we just not be in a place where women can be safe and treated equally?

Dress however you want and change your name from Bill to Nancy. Have your penis inverted, it's still not a vagina. A man cannot become a woman, a woman cannot become a man. You are biologically the sex you are born and that cannot change. I seriously question the mental health or those who genuinely believe that, it's a concerning state of incongruence and that creates more of a threat to women.

allmywhat · 08/10/2019 08:13

I don't know if it's allowed to say this, but the author's picture on their website makes it clear how they could be confused with a man.

They also don't look like someone who would be in any way unsafe, or probably even noticed, in the male toilets.

(I'm not sure if TRAs still pretend they want in women's toilets for safety reasons or have they stopped using that argument? The advocacy of gender neutral toilets doesn't make sense from that perspective.)

TheProdigalKittensReturn · 08/10/2019 08:08

In a recent mediation, In-N-Out’s lawyers made it clear that they do not feel the company did anything wrong. It felt as if they told me I was worth nothing.

This sounds like something one ought to discuss with one's therapist, what with it being a bit of a leap and all. Why are a burger chain responsible for this person's emotional problems?

happydappy2 · 08/10/2019 08:05

Quote from the article, ‘no one is asking for special accommodation ‘
Err but you are because you are asking for males to be given access to the womens bathrooms, and women are rightly saying NO.

EmpressLesbianInChair · 08/10/2019 08:05

Sensible trans people must realise this could be an issue?

Ruth Hunt’s take on the matter, as (non-trans) ex-leader of TRA organisation Stonewall, was that “men are always going to rape women”, the implication being that it’s not worth trying to do anything about it.

Yes. I know. Here’s the citation. blogs.spectator.co.uk/2019/09/can-you-imagine-a-lobbyist-against-womens-rights-being-made-a-peer/

MsTSwift · 08/10/2019 08:03

Me me me me me me me. Not a whisper of thinking how your conduct affects others or how they may feel.

VeniVidiVoxi · 08/10/2019 07:54

Highlights the problem perfectly, although the article in no way addresses it. How do you challenge a man in the women's toilets these days? The man might be a woman, but you might not know that by looking. If you ask then you're being hurtful, if you assume man you're being hurtful. What do you do? Those who 'pass' can carry on regardless, those who don't are probably the most vulnerable/in need of validation, which they won't get. Sensible trans people must realise this could be an issue?

CuriousaboutSamphire · 08/10/2019 07:48

Wait a mo!

Woman say there is a man in the restroom

Manager goes in to check

Manager cannot SEE the person in the restroom

Person in restroom assumes that the manager was not nice cos manager is transphobic!

Not having seen said person, having been told there was a man in the room...

Bless theie Obviously Didn't Pass That Day little heart!

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