Today (at a race) a man went used the women’s loos

Go in, do what you need to do, go back out again

What if the "do what you need to do" is:

• install hidden cameras to secretly watch women (happened)
• sexually assault a young girl/young woman/old woman/ANY woman (happened a thousand times)
• masturbate and leave semen on the toilet seat (happened)
• masturbate and leave pre-cum on the toilet paper because you get a thrill from knowing a woman will wipe herself with it? (happened)
• hide in a cubicle and masturbate to the sounds of women using the toilet (happened) etc etc.

Yeah, you're right Looney, makes no difference at all to have single sex facilities...

I'm sorry you had to experience this. You're not alone in feeling violated and helpless. I've had this happen a number of times (I live in the US), and knowing our state laws protect this behavior is even further injurious.

When using a public restroom, I always turn my phone on and have it handy, ready to call for help. I've found that appearing confident and aware, making eye contact, and certainly not appearing intimidated (without looking haughty or seeking to provoke conflict) has worked for me.

Looneytune Appropriate name, perhaps? It IS a bit crazy not to see how having biologic males in women-only spaces might be harmful. This isn't about "do your own thing and we'll all just get along." Violent crime is almost exclusively committed by males; they have no place in a space for women and (often) children.

Well if he’s a self-IDer then he should be be there, and a male bodied person running against women is a cheat.

I don't understand what difference it actually makes to be fair! Go in, do what you need to do, go back out again. Pay no attention to what others are doing and everyone's happy!?!

If their policy is - if anyone says they are a woman they can race, pee and change alongside women, then I’d say ‘well that’s one less runner for next time’z

Sorry I misunderstood. No laws have been passed to remove single sex spaces so let's not get confused here. Places that apply self ID are not acting within the law.

Now I understand more OP, you simply must complain to the golf club. Please do let this pass without comment. Stuff like this is what got us here in the first place. Saying nothing is what got us here, being nice is what got us here.

Think of the little girl in the Morrison's loo who was very nearly raped by a man (who is now being housed in a women's refuge£. She kicked him in the ball sack, brave kid, no doubt she will have nightmares for a very long time.

What do you want to do op?

TheThingsWeDo.

The only point is that it was a women's only space.
You don't need to ever justify that.

Why? What were the cubicles like? I do think they should all be floor to ceiling as standard in this day and age.

You don't say anything. Campaign for change by all means but under the current legislation they had the right to be there and you shouldn't try to start change by giving individuals a hard time.

I hope we can call this behaviour out but I guess the portaloos are fully enclosed and so it doesn't break any laws but we all know he used the ladies for validation.

I think the only thing you can do OP is complain to the organisers just to make sure they are aware, and then find a loo you feel comfortable using. It shouldn't have come to this, but for now at least, it has.

If you feel you can follow up and write a letter you should.

I think these days people just like to see how the thread goes before giving an opinion. There is a fair amount of ‘watching’ going on then the flying monkeys descend...

There is a lot of baiting OP. Sometimes this is then followed up with women criticised for keeping our guard up and other non related accusations thrown in.

I was at a musical festival this summer. A man used the women's portaloo next to me in the women's area, when the men's area was only round the side.

This was in the wake of the Costa Coffee spy camera (where a man planted a camera to film women).

I didn't say anything. Why? Im 5ft and he was built like a brick shit house.

Well there is a bit of twitter baiting going on around these parts.

So I guess in response to the OP - don’t say anything but get out fast, or say something and potentially get a mouthful of abuse or punch on the nose (or both).

Sadly that’s the choices these days.

OP, the thing is, there is nothing you could have done. This is where we are at. I'm sorry you felt this way.

Way to slam a concerned woman, posters. Did her post not pass your 'sophistication' test or something?

Do you also react this way if say a Muslim woman posts her concerns on this matter?

OP I don't know. I guess say "Excuse me the gents are over there" but then you never know if this man is a Ma'am and you're at physical risk. And that fear, of course, is what they trade on.

Would also be interested in knowing if he raced as a woman.

I get what you are asking OP. I feel strongly about women's spaces being for women. But I wonder if I would actually say anything if a male entered the female toilets, regardless of their gender presentation. I would be too scared. And that's part of the problem isn't it. Women conditioned to be afraid of men, even when they are pretending to be women. But I would be mad with myself afterwards for not saying anything

I wonder if he raced for a ladies time?