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Astonishing thread from Jane Fae, Darvo at its finest.

185 replies

SunsetBeetch · 06/10/2019 16:42

I think Jane may be unhappy about something or other. Can't think what /s

All the classics are there: right wing funding, denyong people's existence...

As a procession of journalists/not-journalists continue to shill unashamedly, unquestioningly for the gender crits, a pattern, some background that the former seem blithely ignorant of.

A thread.

twitter.com/JaneFae/status/1180766181885698050?s=19

They – the gender crits – declared they only wanted to talk, while setting up a batch of pseudo-organisations and so-called charity platforms, little more than social media groups, that blatantly excluded mainstream trans voices.

twitter.com/JaneFae/status/1180766498249465857?s=19

They – the gender crits – said it was all about the Gender Recognition Act and women's concerns....while their leading lights talked openly about removing ALL rights from trans people and driving us out of existence - and journalists/not-journalists said nothing.

twitter.com/JaneFae/status/1180766702352654337?s=19

They – the gender crits – caricatured any GRA changes as ushering in an armageddon for women, while seemingly unaware, ignorant, or lying that the changes proposed did nothing to affect rights trans people had exercised for decades, with no problem.

twitter.com/JaneFae/status/1180766856250044416?s=19

They – the gender crits – happily scooped up hundreds of thousands in funding, including significant donations from far right Christian fundamentalists with an anti-woman agenda, while claiming it was all about defending women.

And journalists/not-journalists said nothing.

twitter.com/JaneFae/status/1180767075989643264?s=19

They – the gender crits – set out on a campaign of publicity stunts designed to exclude trans people from public spaces, while journalists/not-journalists treated it all as a bit of a lark.

A thing to debate politely in two minute set piece televised confrontations.

twitter.com/JaneFae/status/1180767308576374785?s=19

They – the gender crits – paint trans women as sexual deviants, while erasing the validity of trans men and non-binary existence.

Publicly, they endorsed a campaign that incited taxi drivers and bikers to use violence against trans people. Because they only wanted to talk.

twitter.com/JaneFae/status/1180767618074058752?s=19

They – the gender crits – set about invading any and every trans space, intimidating trans folk, denying trans people the safety they demand for themselves.

But it was only about women's concerns.

twitter.com/JaneFae/status/1180767830712705024?s=19

They – the gender crits – initiated a co-ordinated campaign to make it harder/impossible for young trans and gender questioning people to get support in schools. And journalists/ not-journalists said it was just another debate.

twitter.com/JaneFae/status/1180768181163610112?s=19

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boatyardblues · 06/10/2019 19:43

Jane Fae gives me the absolute creeps, every hair on my head stands up.

The knitting live on telly has no one fooled. What’s the phrase? Look at what someone does, not what they say. As a PP has noted above, Jane in her former incarnation was campaigning for extremely violent porn to be legalised. We don’t have to look far to see what kind of person Jane is and what Jane really thinks of women, especially when Jane lets the mask slip with such predictable frequency (eggshell skulls n all). 🤷‍♂️

TheProdigalKittensReturn · 06/10/2019 18:47

Not just you, SirVix.

TheProdigalKittensReturn · 06/10/2019 18:46

Oh no! My hair is not blonde and my eyes are not blue. Tell me more, OfLang.

SarahTancredi · 06/10/2019 18:44

Wtf was any of that about Confused

Waterl00 · 06/10/2019 18:40

Ah, all was calm with Joss by the end of the thread....

I don't mean to seem dramatic or apocalyptic, but we either embrace and trust each other and our differences and learn to see through the propaganda, hate, and misinformation or we may as well crowdfund a big fuck-off nuclear bomb and start over!

Waterl00 · 06/10/2019 18:37

Here is another bafflingly unexplained quote from the thread Joss has reposted today.

If you think trans people are the only target, and you are not straight, white, cisgender, able bodied, and possibly blonde-hair blue-eyed. I suggest you'll be in for a rather nasty shock.

Wut?

SirVixofVixHall · 06/10/2019 18:37

Jane Fae gives me the absolute creeps, every hair on my head stands up.

Whatisthisfuckery · 06/10/2019 18:34

I couldn’t be arsed to read the whole thing. I got stuck lolling about the sexual deviant bit. Not your best line of argument that, Jame.

Waterl00 · 06/10/2019 18:33

And just for the laughs here is the dirty on the dark money streaming in......

twitter.com/joss_prior/status/1111230748030353408

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Kellie herself raised over 12k using crowdfunders, including this generous 'anonymous' donation of £1,600 among others....

Proof indeed. Women don't have money of their own to spend. They only get the housekeeping in small notes on a Friday.

Women are the stepford wives ( the replacement plastic ones) being remote controlled by Dr No in his island lair.....

Tyrotoxicity · 06/10/2019 18:18

paint trans women as sexual deviants

Said it on the other thread but it bears repeating here.

It wasn't gender critical women who did this. It was Stonewall who widened the umbrella and reclassified sexual deviants as transwomen. Take it up with them if you don't like it.

Ereshkigal · 06/10/2019 18:06

We really, truly don't only want to talk, we wanted to do things you don't like. Our things, for us. Exclusionary things.

This.

TheProdigalKittensReturn · 06/10/2019 18:04

We said we wanted to talk and they said "how fucking dare you", and then they tried to prevent us from talking.

OrchidInTheSun · 06/10/2019 18:03

I'm surprised that someone with such illustrious academic credentials would make a thread of allegations with nothing to back them up.

But then, this is the person who said that most women were murdered by partners because of our silly eggshell skulls.

So this is just another in a long history of dishonest tweeting

KatvonHostileExtremist · 06/10/2019 18:03

I don't think I've ever once seen a GC person write a threat of violence towards a trans person.

What I find astonishing is that this person is listened to in any context.

butteryellow · 06/10/2019 18:02

paint trans women as sexual deviants

Sorry.. Jane Fae said this.. Jane Fae who acted as an expert witness telling a court that extreme pornography, talking about dismembering girls, and sexually abusing the body parts was just fine, and shouldn't be classed as an obscene publication?

We all know it's all lies, but that's a particularly blatant one - no painting needed, when you've testified in court that you, personally are in favour of that sort of thing!

Waterl00 · 06/10/2019 17:51

Who said we only want to talk?

Nope, we expect, and demand to be consulted on law changes that affect us.

We expect to be able to resist damaging education material that affects our kids in schools.

We expect to challenge policies made by employers and councils that ignore the actual EA2010 in favour of law changes that have not happened and are illegal.

We really, truly don't only want to talk, we wanted to do things you don't like. Our things, for us. Exclusionary things.

FWRLurker · 06/10/2019 17:48

How would I go about “eradicating trans people from the face of the earth.”?? No seriously, how?

Ereshkigal · 06/10/2019 17:42

Charlie Evans public detransition has really shaken the TRAs hasn't it?

Yep. It's amazing when TRAs thought we just wanted to talk that they turned up en masse to intimidate us into not talking. If they thought we would just have a chat about it and then roll over, that seems strange?

ArnoldWhatshisknickers · 06/10/2019 17:37

A woman handing out leaflets who said she talked to a few lads on bikes

Ahhh teenage boys on bicycles!

That's why I couldn't recall what the hell JF was blethering on about with 'bikers and taxi drivers'. They weren't bikers, just kids. On bicycles.

littlbrowndog · 06/10/2019 17:37

Didn’t fae come o; here to lectur3 us ?

Was that about the girl guides and pjs ?

Or was that someone else?

truthisarevolutionaryact · 06/10/2019 17:35

Ah - the self identified expert in all things relating to extreme porn and the girl guides.
DARVO indeed .

ShesDressedInBlackAgain · 06/10/2019 17:33

That can't be right because Fae has quite clearly said that Fae has evidence for everything so perhaps you mistakenly tweeted that you were going to burn Fae's house down?

LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 06/10/2019 17:31

Someone been hitting the sauce early haven’t they?

VickyEadieofThigh · 06/10/2019 17:30

There are so many specious lies in that thread I'm astonished and I'm no stranger to specious lies.

OrchidInTheSun · 06/10/2019 17:21

I asked Fae for the 'links/screenshots/statements' to back up the assertions. Fae promptly blocked me. What curious behaviour.

Perhaps I'm not the right sort of non-journalist to be asking to see them.